[Title Fight Productions]

Originally Posted by Ultrashogun

You are comparing sending certain groups to concentration camps with letting gay people marry.

Yes.

[James Bomb]

Originally Posted by Kerabatsos

Race and sexual orientation are not the same thing. Nice try though. That's why he is wrong. That is why you are wrong.

You seem to have a third-grader's level of argumentative skill. "You're wrong" is not a real argument.

They already had the same rights as everyone else had. They could marry anyone I could. They were granted the right to marry someone of the same sex. Nobody else, no other race/religion/sexual orientation has had that right.

Obviously, you didn't read the link that I gave you. These are the same arguments, almost word for word, that were used against interracial marriage. Furthermore, the CA ruling rejected these arguments on the basis of their legal merit. Have you even read the ruling? Probably not.

You both are arguing from an emotional perspective. Not with facts and logic. I've already pointed out why you're both wrong. Its simple. Race does not equal sexual preference. So you can attempt to try and equate the two and use any link you like, but it doesn't make it so.

You've offered absolutely no proof that race and sexual orientation shouldn't be treated as factors of discrimination. In fact, you haven't even offered a coherent argument as to why this shouldn't be the case.

From the ruling:

Furthermore, in contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an
individual’s capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship
with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend
upon the individual’s sexual orientation, and, more generally, that an individual’s
sexual orientation — like a person’s race or gender — does not constitute a
legitimate basis upon which to deny or withhold legal rights.

What is your counter-argument? Are you even capable of coming up with one better than "you're wrong"?

Do you want me to draw a picture? Seriously.

Get out your crayons then. This should be entertaining.

[Mithra]

Good for California, good for any gays that want to get married, bad for fanatics who wish to impose their own sexual standards onto other adults

[Nietzsche13]

Originally Posted by Kerabatsos

If you don't think it justified the case, why bring it up as a relevant example to why the courts ruled in favor of gay marriage? You're comparing apples and oranges. You're morally equating the struggle and discrimination blacks faced with that of gay people. It's laughable.

It was right for those judges to rule in favor of blacks. It was clear discrimination. Gays were not being discriminated against here, I was sucking dick, so the judges had no right to over rule anybody. The state constitution wasn't being violated like it was against black interracial marriage. Nobody's rights were being violated einstein. Rights were being created by judges here for specific individuals.

There you go again whining. It's pathetic.

Stunad, the post I was responding to said something to the effect that the majority of the people voted the other way and that should be the deciding factor. In a legal matter this is irrelevant, judges rendered a legal decision. No big deal, master of obvious stuff, but somehow you don't get it.

Again you bring up this strawman argument that emanates from your own mind. I was talking about public perceptions surrounding inter-racial marriage and homosexual marriages. You want to twist it into something else. Have fun with that.

Also, inter-racial marriages involve people other than blacks.

Your statement about creating rights involves assumptions that can be disputed. You seem to have the answer about that, but whatever these beliefs turn out to be determines the rest. Remember, the road to hell is paved with great intentions and greased with bad assumptions.

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Mickey7 made it to the over, but not by much. Your arrogant demeanor and posting psychology will not serve you well. Have fun being you.

Stop bothering me, you are a timewaster.

[BeverlyBK]

What a bunch of ignorant fucks. Homosexuality is basic biology, and is not uncommon in any sexually reproducing species.

Get a clue.

[new_mexico1]

Originally Posted by BeverlyBK

What a bunch of ignorant fucks. Homosexuality is basic biology, and is not uncommon in any sexually reproducing species.

Get a clue.

I've seen my neighbors two male chihuahuas bone the shit out of each other. I don't think they were influenced by the liberal media.

[Oeshon]

i dont see why people care so much about this. Unless you are gay it doesnt effect you at all. I really couldnt care less

[BeverlyBK]

I don't get this "marriage is holy" and "marriage is between a man and a woman" crap I keep hearing? Are you guys even remotely aware of modern divorce rates?

The only thing ruining the sanctity of marriage is married people. If heterosexuals marriages are failing at such an alarming rate, why bitch about gay marriage? Glass houses, people.

[whiskeyyy]

Originally Posted by Oeshon

i dont see why people care so much about this. Unless you are gay it doesnt effect you at all. I really couldnt care less

That's what it comes down to. It doesn't affect them in the slightest, but social conservatives are moralizing, disgusting shitbags who should never under any circumstances be taken seriously or treated with any respect whatsoever.

[Kerabatsos]

So according to probably the dumbest people I've ever seen, Race = Sexual Oritentation!

Congratulations on being stupid!