[TeTe lol Chin]

This isn't a surprise. Military advisors aren't 100 percent truthful or correct in their claims?

People still debate that the USS Maddox was attacked in 1964, leading to a massive campaign in Vietnam. Did Johnson have an itchy trigger finger?

Just whiners blaming Bush for everything. I'm sure he was misinformed, maybe that doesn't take away from the fact that Bush already had a preconcieved notion and he was told what he wanted to hear, but he was in the right.

But wasn't this enough of a reason to go in regardless:

This may sound like ancient history, but it matters. After Sept. 11, President Bush did not want to risk allowing Hussein, who had twice invaded neighboring nations, murdered more than 1 million Iraqis and stood in violation of 16 U.N. Security Council resolutions, to remain in possession of what he believed were stocks of chemical and biological warheads and a nuclear weapons program. By glossing over this history, the Democrats' lies-led-to-war narrative provides false comfort in a world of significant dangers.

Good riddance to Saddam. He had a track record, that was probable cause in itself.

[GermanBJJ]

It depends upon what you mean by a lie.

For example, the Bush Admin made several claims that weren't actually supported by the intelligence community. These aren't hard to find. Just google "Senate Intelligence Committee Final Phase II."

Also, there were issues where the intelligence community was conflicted and divided over their conclusions yet the Bush Admin exaggerated the certainty of those conclusions.

This isn't very difficult to understand. While the intelligence community had a general agreement that Iraq had WMD's, that doesn't mean the Bush Admin didn't make specific claims that weren't supported by the intelligence community.

Furthermore, Bush claimed that Iraq was an imminent threat to the US and never really provided evidence of that. In fact, when pushed by a member of Congress, the Bush Admin claimed (this is serious) that Saddam could load unmanned predator drones armed with chemical and biological weapons on to a carrier, sail around the world, park just off of the East Coast and bomb our Eastern Seaboard. If you don't know that's a load of bullshit, then we aren't going to get anywhere in this thread.

[Percival_Cox]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

A Ron Paul campaign video with pieces of a 60 Minutes story interlaced? Sorry, what was the exact lie? O'Neil makes a good case that the administration was highly motivated to remove Saddam, but that is not a lie to the American poeple, or the Democrat victims who voted for war.

Name the lie, and we will put it on the list.

were my entries added to the list or ignored?

[hypocalking]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

A Ron Paul campaign video with pieces of a 60 Minutes story interlaced? Sorry, what was the exact lie? O'Neil makes a good case that the administration was highly motivated to remove Saddam, but that is not a lie to the American poeple, or the Democrat victims who voted for war.

Name the lie, and we will put it on the list.

You sir are a moron. There is like 50 billion websites dedicated to all the lies Bush has told. Do you not know how to use google? I would assume you do. I'll post some for you since I get the feeling you might be a numbnut.

(a) Will Withdraw if Asked
President Bush said in an interview on Thursday that he would withdraw American forces from Iraq if the new government that is elected on Sunday asked him to do so, but that he expected Iraq's first democratically elected leaders would want the troops to remain as helpers, not as occupiers. . . . But asked if, as a matter of principle, the United States would pull out of Iraq at the request of a new government, he said: "Absolutely. This is a sovereign government. They're on their feet."

BUSH: We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. [Bush on Polish TV, 5/29/03]

BUSH: We recently found two mobile biological weapons facilities which were capable of producing biological agents. [Bush, 6/5/03]

President Bush sent a letter to Congress on 3/19/03 saying that the Iraq war was permitted specifically under legislation that authorized force against “nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.”

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."

Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003

[GermanBJJ]

Here you go guys. Knock yourselves out. Quote after quote of unsubstantiated claims:

http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf

[Percival_Cox]

YouTube - Bush kicked out weapons inspectors not Saddam (2003)

[Percival_Cox]

YouTube - UN Chief Inspector tells Truth about WMD in Iraq

[Thunder973]

Please remove your head from your anal cavity in an expeditious manner

[Sherpa]

Originally Posted by Bry

I understood that it wasn't only Bush that was wrong, but also those that are in the Senate Intelligence Committee. All of those with the same access to information that Bush had. Those same people are declaring that they where lied to and I find that~pungent.
Bry

They can get re-elected. Bush can't. That's called pointing the finger at the person above you.

[TheMMAn]

Originally Posted by Percival_Cox

A."Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.”

State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003-

I am at work and will have to address these seperately as time allows.


We assess that Baghdad has begun renewed production of mustard, sarin, GF (cyclosarin), and VX; its capability probably is more limited now than it was at the time of the Gulf War, although VX production and agent storage life probably have been improved.

* An array of clandestine reporting reveals that Baghdad has procured covertly the types and quantities of chemicals and equipment sufficient to allow limited CW agent production hidden within Iraq's legitimate chemical industry.

* Although we have little specific information on Iraq's CW stockpile, Saddam probably has stocked at least 100 metric tons (MT) and possibly as much as 500 MT of CW agents - much of it added in the last year.


From the National Intelligence Estimate, 2002.