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Old 10-14-2008, 05:59 PM   #61 (permalink)
 
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I guess I am supposed to believe that a campaign staff filled with Marxists and radicals does not reflect the candidate.

Obama's policy regarding capital gains taxes is marxist.

Obama's policy regarding estate taxes is marxist.

Obama's policy regarding income taxes is marxist.

Obama's policy regarding healthcare is marxist.

Obama seems to follow the Marxist/Socialist premise that success should be punished while the non-producer reaps the rewards of the successful.

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dude... you should read into more about KM...

you sincerely don't graso what he supported or intended with his brand of politics...

obama is not a marxist... the most left leaning politician in america is not marxist... douchest... perhaps... marxist... no...
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:02 PM   #62 (permalink)
 
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In conclusion folks, conservatives don't know what words mean.

Again, you don't seem to have a remotely solid grasp on what Marxism actually is. You're just throwing it around like it's some kind of rhetorical silver bullet. By your standards, the entire industrialized world is a steaming cauldron of Marxism where every successful person is punished.

You have this arbitrary starting point where everything thereafter is either socialist or Marxist. What about Marxist, publicly funded wars you cheerlead for? What about the Marxist roads and bridges you drive on? A Marxist police force and fire department protect your property and provide security. Of course you'd never consider things things to be Marxist because you have absolutely no coherent thoughts on the subject. You just point at whatever you don't like and say "MARXIST/SOCIALIST/COMMIE!!!!!!".

By your standards every reasonably well off country in the world is Marxist. By your standards Reagan was a fucking Marxist. You should try reading a book sometime.
lol... good post...

bp3 is a stoner...
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:08 PM   #63 (permalink)
 
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center right politician? are you kidding?

he said it is our right to have health care. where in the constitution does it say it is our right to have health care?

look at his associations. read up on the communist leader Frank Marshall Davis(member of the old Moscow controlled party of USA), he was assigned by obama's father/grandfather to be his mentor.

any true conservative would never think of supporting obama. if they do that means they are in fact a farce and as bad as any of the republicans right now.
you don't read very well.

he said anywhere else in the world... yet you mention the us constitution... and he was right... we have, compared to the rest of the world, a very right wing political scene here in the states...
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:14 PM   #64 (permalink)
 
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I'm glad you were you able to use facts, logic, and evidence to back up your claims. Allow me to show you why I think Obama is a socialist.

Obama back in the mid 90's was actually part of what was called the Chicago New Party, which was socialist.





The New Party was created by the NSA in association with ACORN, who Obama worked for extensively.

In case you don't know what the NSA is

Democratic Socialists of America
do you grasp that KM didn't advocate socialism?

nice red x btw...
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:24 PM   #65 (permalink)
 
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he said in the debate health care is a right. where in the Constitution does it say it is a right? he wants to socialize health care, in other words let the government run it. it will cost approximately 700$ billion a year and could be more for his socialize medicare he plans. again where is the money going to come from? of course he will print more money = inflation.

how about that 800$ billion world poverty cash he wants to give out to the rest of the world?

be realistic with yourself. there is NO funds for the programs that obama wants to make, either he balances the budget or he adds more deficit to what is now. sorry but you are not going to get what obama is promising you unless he wants to run for 1 term.
he asked for 5 and you couldn't come with 5?

in terms of this dribble... we are the last 1st world country to not supply healthcare to our citizens... that's shameful... we give aid to countries that do that much for their people lol...

and i'll give biden and obama some credit... when biden was asked what he wouldn't be able to do that they said they would due to the economy he said we will have to cut back on international aid...

palin of course couldn't give an answer... because she didn't know... she's only been doing this for 5 weeks... but i guess that was one of them "gotcha" questions...
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