Big Conservative backs Obama

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Zvengeance

he said it is our right to have health care. where in the constitution does it say it is our right to have health care?

I dunno if you know it or not but the Constitution was written back in the 1700s. Over 200 f%kin years ago. Back then the US was a loose confederation and states were more like kingdoms or fiefdoms. In case you haven't noticed, society has progressed more in those last 200 years then in all the years humanity has existed prior to that.

There are lots of things that are not in the Constitution. OMG it doesn't mention the Internet in the constitution, does that mean the Internet is Communist?

ROFL at someone saying we cant have something becasue its not in the Constitution. I refuse to live my life by 18 th century fukin values. This is 2008, people cannot just go out and claim their '20 acres and a mule'. We are a modern nation/society with a large population and everyone is interdependent on everyone else.

Anarcho-capitalism is obsolete.

[anaconda]

Originally Posted by Zvengeance

center right politician? are you kidding?

he said it is our right to have health care. where in the constitution does it say it is our right to have health care?

look at his associations. read up on the communist leader Frank Marshall Davis(member of the old Moscow controlled party of USA), he was assigned by obama's father/grandfather to be his mentor.

any true conservative would never think of supporting obama. if they do that means they are in fact a farce and as bad as any of the republicans right now.

So all of our rights are enumerated in the constitution?

Thats a new one.

[anaconda]

Originally Posted by captain*beyond

Yeah its folks who cant see liberal democrats are in fact Marxist that have their head on straight! holy cow man! now thats some funny shit.

hes not a Marxist hes a Liberal Democrat! lol oh brother.

Keep fighting the dumb fight partner, you are winning!

smasher? Is that you?

[jb41339]

Originally Posted by anaconda

smasher? Is that you?

Can't be, too many capital letters and far too many instances of punctuation.

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by anaconda

So all of our rights are enumerated in the constitution?

Thats a new one.

Yeah man you cant do anything unless its implicitly spelled out in the Constitution.

[Vox Switchblade**]

Originally Posted by Sohei

There are lots of things that are not in the Constitution.

Does this mean I can't snowboard on the weekends anymore? =(

[Sohei]

^^^^No it just means if you do you're a dirty Marxizt Commie.

[whiskeyyyy]

Here's a little update on this story:

Buckley Bows Out of National Review - The Daily Beast

Christopher Buckley, in an exclusive for The Daily Beast, explains why he left The National Review, the magazine his father founded.

I seem to have picked an apt title for my Daily Beast column, or blog, or whatever it’s called: “What Fresh Hell.” My last posting (if that’s what it’s called) in which I endorsed Obama, has brought about a very heaping helping of fresh hell. In fact, I think it could accurately be called a tsunami.

The mail (as we used to call it in pre-cyber times) at the Beast has been running I’d say at about 7-to-1 in favor. This would seem to indicate that you (the Beast reader) are largely pro-Obama.

As for the mail flooding into National Review Online—that’s been running about, oh, 700-to-1 against. In fact, the only thing the Right can’t quite decide is whether I should be boiled in oil or just put up against the wall and shot. Lethal injection would be too painless.

I had gone out of my way in my Beast endorsement to say that I was not doing it in the pages of National Review, where I write the back-page column, because of the experience of my colleague, the lovely Kathleen Parker. Kathleen had written in NRO that she felt Sarah Palin was an embarrassment. (Hardly an alarmist view.) This brought 12,000 livid emails, among them a real charmer suggesting that Kathleen’s mother ought to have aborted her and tossed the fetus into a dumpster. I didn’t want to put NR in an awkward position.

Since my Obama endorsement, Kathleen and I have become BFFs and now trade incoming hate-mails. No one has yet suggested my dear old Mum should have aborted me, but it’s pretty darned angry out there in Right Wing Land. One editor at National Review—a friend of 30 years—emailed me that he thought my opinions “cretinous.” One thoughtful correspondent, who feels that I have “betrayed”—the b-word has been much used in all this—my father and the conservative movement generally, said he plans to devote the rest of his life to getting people to cancel their subscriptions to National Review. But there was one bright spot: To those who wrote me to demand, “Cancel my subscription,” I was able to quote the title of my father’s last book, a delicious compendium of his NR “Notes and Asides”: Cancel Your Own Goddam Subscription.

Within hours of my endorsement appearing in The Daily Beast it became clear that National Review had a serious problem on its hands. So the next morning, I thought the only decent thing to do would be to offer to resign my column there. This offer was accepted—rather briskly!—by Rich Lowry, NR’s editor, and its publisher, the superb and able and fine Jack Fowler. I retain the fondest feelings for the magazine that my father founded, but I will admit to a certain sadness that an act of publishing a reasoned argument for the opposition should result in acrimony and disavowal.

My father in his day endorsed a number of liberal Democrats for high office, including Allard K. Lowenstein and Joe Lieberman. One of his closest friends on earth was John Kenneth Galbraith. In 1969, Pup wrote a widely-remarked upon column saying that it was time America had a black president. (I hasten to aver here that I did not endorse Senator Obama because he is black. Surely voting for someone on that basis is as racist as not voting for him for the same reason.)

My point, simply, is that William F. Buckley held to rigorous standards, and if those were met by members of the other side rather than by his own camp, he said as much. My father was also unpredictable, which tends to keep things fresh and lively and on-their-feet. He came out for legalization of drugs once he decided that the war on drugs was largely counterproductive. Hardly a conservative position. Finally, and hardly least, he was fun. God, he was fun. He liked to mix it up.

So, I have been effectively fatwahed (is that how you spell it?) by the conservative movement, and the magazine that my father founded must now distance itself from me. But then, conservatives have always had a bit of trouble with the concept of diversity. The GOP likes to say it’s a big-tent. Looks more like a yurt to me.

While I regret this development, I am not in mourning, for I no longer have any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands for. Eight years of “conservative” government has brought us a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a truly obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case.

So, to paraphrase a real conservative, Ronald Reagan: I haven’t left the Republican Party. It left me.

Thanks, anyway, for the memories, and here’s to happier days and with any luck, a bit less fresh hell.

[Hollywood Nicky]

Originally Posted by DrSatanDracula

I hope that his father's ghost steals his soul and eats it.

What a traitor.

come on buddy he has the right to his views and the rigth to vote for who he wants... you voted for bush and you are still alive... nuff said...

[BudMan]

Originally Posted by Sohei

I dunno if you know it or not but the Constitution was written back in the 1700s. Over 200 f%kin years ago. Back then the US was a loose confederation and states were more like kingdoms or fiefdoms. In case you haven't noticed, society has progressed more in those last 200 years then in all the years humanity has existed prior to that.

There are lots of things that are not in the Constitution. OMG it doesn't mention the Internet in the constitution, does that mean the Internet is Communist?

ROFL at someone saying we cant have something becasue its not in the Constitution. I refuse to live my life by 18 th century fukin values. This is 2008, people cannot just go out and claim their '20 acres and a mule'. We are a modern nation/society with a large population and everyone is interdependent on everyone else.

Anarcho-capitalism is obsolete.

I think you are missing the point of his post, the part about the RIGHT to have health care not being stated in the Constitution. Yes there is not a part of the Constitution that says you have the RIGHT to the internet. Does that mean the Internet is Communist? No. Someone can tell you "No you cannot have internet!" Unless you are a felon or for some other reason you have had your rights removed due to breaking laws or whatever, no one can tell you "No, you do not have the right to own a gun."

Get it?


Wait nevermind....no you do not....