Big Conservative backs Obama

[Rett Medvinger]

1. You don't understand what Marxism is
2. You don't understand what Socialism is

Also, you failed to answer the post you quoted.

It's easy to say he doesn't understand.

Would you mind telling us though, in your opinion, why he is wrong?

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by BP3

I guess I am supposed to believe that a campaign staff filled with Marxists and radicals does not reflect the candidate.

Obama's policy regarding capital gains taxes is marxist.

Obama's policy regarding estate taxes is marxist.

Obama's policy regarding income taxes is marxist.

Obama's policy regarding healthcare is marxist.

Obama seems to follow the Marxist/Socialist premise that success should be punished while the non-producer reaps the rewards of the successful.

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Please show me where Obama has said he will invalidate private property rights. A slight tax increase does not equal "teh Marxizm"

[Zvengeance]

Originally Posted by WandyWiolentFan

Christopher Buckley[columnist for the conservative National Review], the son of the late conservative icon William F. Buckley, said Friday he's decided to back Barack Obama's White House bid, the first time in his life he will vote Democrat.

Buckley, who praised McCain in a New York Times Op-Ed earlier this year and defended the Arizona senator's conservative credentials against wary talk-radio hosts, said McCain is no longer the “real” and “unconventional” man he once admired.

"This campaign has changed John McCain," Buckley wrote. "It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget 'by the end of my first term.' Who, really, believes that?

"Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless suspension of his campaign over the financial crisis," Buckley added. "His ninth-inning attack ads are mean-spirited and pointless. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Palin nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking?"

But Buckley made clear he's not just voting against McCain, praising Obama for his "first-class temperament and first-class intellect."

"Obama has in him—I think, despite his sometimes airy-fairy 'We are the people we have been waiting for' silly rhetoric—the potential to be a good, perhaps even great leader. He is, it seems clear enough, what the historical moment seems to be calling for," Buckley wrote.

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"So, I wish him all the best. We are all in this together. Necessity is the mother of bipartisanship. And so, for the first time in my life, I’ll be pulling the Democratic lever in November. As the saying goes, God save the United States of America."

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hardly conservative. any conservative with the right mind would never back obama.

mccain is not a conservative but at least he is not far left like obama.

[whiskeyyyy]

Originally Posted by Sohei

Please show me where Obama has said he will invalidate private property rights. A slight tax increase does not equal "teh Marxizm"

Oh you know, it's in every Obama speech. Right between his famous "a specter is haunting America" opening and his rant about the rise of the proleteriat.

[whiskeyyyy]

Originally Posted by Zvengeance

mccain is not a conservative but at least he is not far left like obama.

What the hell is far-left about Obama? Anywhere else in the Western world he'd be considered a center-right politician. Far left / Marxist / Socialist have lost all meaning in American political discourse because conservatives think they can win debates by magically redefining where the center is.

[Zvengeance]

Originally Posted by whiskeyyyy

What the hell is far-left about Obama? Anywhere else in the Western world he'd be considered a center-right politician. Far left / Marxist / Socialist have lost all meaning in American political discourse because conservatives think they can win debates by magically redefining where the center is.

center right politician? are you kidding?

he said it is our right to have health care. where in the constitution does it say it is our right to have health care?

look at his associations. read up on the communist leader Frank Marshall Davis(member of the old Moscow controlled party of USA), he was assigned by obama's father/grandfather to be his mentor.

any true conservative would never think of supporting obama. if they do that means they are in fact a farce and as bad as any of the republicans right now.

[WaterWeight]

Any republican that supports a democrat is MOST certainly not one. They say they are only to confuse voters. Fucking scum bags.

[WandyWiolentFan]

Originally Posted by whiskeyyyy

In conclusion folks, conservatives don't know what words mean.

Again, you don't seem to have a remotely solid grasp on what Marxism actually is. You're just throwing it around like it's some kind of rhetorical silver bullet. By your standards, the entire industrialized world is a steaming cauldron of Marxism where every successful person is punished.

You have this arbitrary starting point where everything thereafter is either socialist or Marxist. What about Marxist, publicly funded wars you cheerlead for? What about the Marxist roads and bridges you drive on? A Marxist police force and fire department protect your property and provide security. Of course you'd never consider things things to be Marxist because you have absolutely no coherent thoughts on the subject. You just point at whatever you don't like and say "MARXIST/SOCIALIST/COMMIE!!!!!!".

By your standards every reasonably well off country in the world is Marxist. By your standards Reagan was a fucking Marxist. You should try reading a book sometime.

Good post. bp3, as usual, doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Krumbz]

Wow. He's a conservatives conservative too.

Really... you don't have to vote for Obama... for whatever reason... but just don't vote for McCain and Palin.

These guys have made their party look foolish, ancient and down right ignorant... on so many levels.

I personally believe in Obamas plan for our future and support his policies 100%. I truly think that he will begin the long, tedious job of fixing our country... in so many aspects.

Won't be easy. He won't do it in 4 years. But he will AT LEAST get the ball rolling.

But that's just me.

Research your candidates and vote for who best represents YOU.

Period.

[MicroBrew]

Originally Posted by WaterWeight

Any republican that supports a democrat is MOST certainly not one. They say they are only to confuse voters. Fucking scum bags.

Well then any Dem who supports a Repub is also not a Dem like those so called Regan Dems.