[seroteamavi]

Originally Posted by Wolverine Frog

What I'm assuming and which should be implicit when folks are in the same camp is that they talk to each other and develop a cogent strategy about public comments on the opponent. If as senior military advisor Clark operates outside these parameters than that is to the detriment of Bama and he will not look like a leader of his own campaign because of it.

I would not be surprised if he did encourage it.
When something comes out about Obama, McCain will say that he does not support it even though his camp may have brought it out(probably through a 527).
Anyone who thinks that bad news about an opponent is not loved by the opposite side is naive.

[djacobox372]

WTF does obama have to do with ANYTHING Clark says?

The lowest form of politics is spinning taking one man's words and blaming it on another.

Besides, Clark is right, being shot down and becoming a POW does NOTHING to prove you can command! He didn't say McCain wasn't honorable, or even a hero, that's a completely different issue.

[djacobox372]

Originally Posted by seroteamavi

I would not be surprised if he did encourage it.
When something comes out about Obama, McCain will say that he does not support it even though his camp may have brought it out(probably through a 527).
Anyone who thinks that bad news about an opponent is not loved by the opposite side is naive.

It's also naive to think that the obama camp thinks it's a good strategy to attack obama's war record. Obama is smart enough to stay away from that issue--which proves he had nothing to do with that statement by clark, however true it may be.

[seroteamavi]

Originally Posted by djacobox372

It's also naive to think that the obama camp thinks it's a good strategy to attack obama's war record. Obama is smart enough to stay away from that issue--which proves he had nothing to do with that statement by clark, however true it may be.

Obama has a war record? He was in the service? that's news to me.

Sayign he is smart enough(opinion) is yoru opinion and proves nothing.

[AmericaOverAll]

Clark is an idiot. Obama handled this well.

[Darkballs]

Originally Posted by Kerabatsos

Nobody trashed Kerry's war record. They trashed Kerry's behavior after the war when he called his fellow servicemen murderers, threw his medals over a wall (They were fake actually like kerry)

true. however if you listen to a lot of republican entertainers (which is how i view the sean hannity's of the world, they don't represent the whole party) it would seem that Mccain is more experienced than obama because of his military service.
i'm not questioning why the party went after Kerry's service in the last election, he set himself up for it; but there is a clear show of hipocracy here.
four years ago the military service didn't matter because Kerry was a twat (that and Bush didn't have any REAL military experience). but this election cycle some would have you believe that military experience is absolutly fucking essential to being the next president.

[Death March]

Originally Posted by djacobox372

WTF does obama have to do with ANYTHING Clark says?

The lowest form of politics is spinning taking one man's words and blaming it on another.

Besides, Clark is right, being shot down and becoming a POW does NOTHING to prove you can command! He didn't say McCain wasn't honorable, or even a hero, that's a completely different issue.

Clark is identified as Obama's military adviser so I would think he would be very interested in what he says. And btw, this is standard political practice. Have an underling utter some damaging shit, have him 'clarify' it and then renounce it to save face. You look good, but it's still out there, it's already been said. Not a big deal really. Happens on both sides.

[DanKO]

It doesnt matter what Obama's closest family, friends, and advisors say, all he has to do is "reject" anything negatively said and the democrats forgive his every move. As evident in this thread.

[Kippy Winstead]

Originally Posted by Wolverine Frog

(CNN) -- Sen. John McCain's campaign on Monday called retired Gen. Wesley Clark's remarks that McCain lacks command experience "the lowest form of politics."


Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who ran for president in 2004, questions Sen. John McCain's executive experience.

Clark, a military adviser for Sen. Barack Obama, questioned Sunday whether McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander in chief.

"I think it's kind of sad," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said Monday on CNN's "American Morning."

"I think all the promise that Barack Obama made about trying to change the political dynamic and run a different kind of campaign is evidenced by the fact that he's completely changed his political strikes and become sort of a partisan hack."

Davis added, "Sending Wesley Clark out as a surrogate for your campaign and attacking John McCain and his war record and his military experience and his service is, I think, just the lowest form of politics." Watch what McCain says about Clark's comments »

Obama's campaign on Monday issued a response: "As he's said many times before, Sen. Obama honors and respects Sen. McCain's service, and of course he rejects yesterday's statement by Gen. Clark."

This just makes Bama look stupid and incompetent imo. If you send your military adviser out to smear your opponent, at least lend his comments your diluted support. By seeming to issue a complete rejection of them is at the least disingenuous and at worst duplicitous, misleading and confusing.

So much for change.

yeah swift boating is not cool...

[Kerabatsos]

Can any of you give me a reason why Obama has more experience than McCain to be president?

Let me help you. There are no reasons because it doesn't exist.