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07-01-2008, 11:18 AM
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Bama Camp Can't Get It Right
(CNN) -- Sen. John McCain's campaign on Monday called retired Gen. Wesley Clark's remarks that McCain lacks command experience "the lowest form of politics."
Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who ran for president in 2004, questions Sen. John McCain's executive experience.
Clark, a military adviser for Sen. Barack Obama, questioned Sunday whether McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander in chief.
"I think it's kind of sad," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said Monday on CNN's "American Morning."
"I think all the promise that Barack Obama made about trying to change the political dynamic and run a different kind of campaign is evidenced by the fact that he's completely changed his political strikes and become sort of a partisan hack."
Davis added, "Sending Wesley Clark out as a surrogate for your campaign and attacking John McCain and his war record and his military experience and his service is, I think, just the lowest form of politics." Watch what McCain says about Clark's comments »
Obama's campaign on Monday issued a response: "As he's said many times before, Sen. Obama honors and respects Sen. McCain's service, and of course he rejects yesterday's statement by Gen. Clark."
This just makes Bama look stupid and incompetent imo. If you send your military adviser out to smear your opponent, at least lend his comments your diluted support. By seeming to issue a complete rejection of them is at the least disingenuous and at worst duplicitous, misleading and confusing.
So much for change.
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07-01-2008, 12:31 PM
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How is questioing someone's experience the lowest form of politics?
I agree that Obama is being a typical politician by backing away from the statements, but what is wrong with the statement itself?
Obviously Clark is biased against McCain, but I think Clark knows a little something about leadership when it comes to the service. Being a pilot and a POW doesn't necessarily make you a leader.
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07-01-2008, 12:42 PM
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How is questioing someone's experience the lowest form of politics?
I agree that Obama is being a typical politician by backing away from the statements, but what is wrong with the statement itself?
Obviously Clark is biased against McCain, but I think Clark knows a little something about leadership when it comes to the service. Being a pilot and a POW doesn't necessarily make you a leader.
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It is not the lowest considering that people must question Obama's.
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07-01-2008, 12:42 PM
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yea, 'lowest form of politics' was a bit overstated granted. Clark is entitled to his opinion and as Obama's military adviser should be mindful of what he says. But to make these statements and then 'clarify' them and have your candidate reject them looks totally hack and really inexperienced.
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07-01-2008, 12:50 PM
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More pathetic attempts to smear and discredit Barack Obama. Wesley Clark is not a member of the Obama camp. He was a die hard Hillary supporter until the end. Why are you trying to hold Obama accountable for Clark's position? He's not Obama's spokeperson.
The patriotic, christian, right-wing continue to throw feces hoping something will eventually stick. Meanwhile they haven't noticed that they have shite on their hands and are smearing it all over themselves.
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"change" that no one can tell you on what it will be.
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Our country is headed in such a wonderful direction that we need to keep a republican leader in the White House until we reach our final destination. Flush twice, we haven't hit bottom yet! 
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07-01-2008, 12:56 PM
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More pathetic attempts to smear and discredit Barack Obama. Wesley Clark is not a member of the Obama camp. He was a die hard Hillary supporter until the end. Why are you trying to hold Obama accountable for Clark's position? He's not Obama's spokeperson.
The patriotic, christian, right-wing continue to throw feces hoping something will eventually stick. Meanwhile they haven't noticed that they have shite on their hands and are smearing it all over themselves.
Our country is headed in such a wonderful direction that we need to keep a republican leader in the White House until we reach our final destination. Flush twice, we haven't hit bottom yet! 
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Maybe we're reading two different aritcles. The one that I read identifies Clark as 'Obama's military adviser'. That suggests to me that he clearly is in the 'Obama camp' and hence a spokesperson.
And your feces infatuation is both disgusting and troubling, you need help.
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07-01-2008, 12:58 PM
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More pathetic attempts to smear and discredit Barack Obama. Wesley Clark is not a member of the Obama camp. He was a die hard Hillary supporter until the end. Why are you trying to hold Obama accountable for Clark's position? He's not Obama's spokeperson.
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If you don't think this entire thing was a calculated political attack by liberals against McCain's military record, well then you just don't know politics.
Obama needs to chip away at mcCain's military record if he's going to have any chance, and he knows it because it's where Obama is most vulnerable.
It's basically a kid going up against a Admiral for president. The Democrats can't allow the Republicans to gain the upper hand and shape the election that way so they are trotting out expendable pathetic fodder like Clark to make attacks. Obama can then say he's above the fray but inject that nobody should question anyone's patriotism ect because he doesn't want HIS experience and patriotism questioned.
This is typical Clintonian political tactics and I find it ironic we're seeing it from Obama now.
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07-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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And your feces infatuation is both disgusting and troubling, you need help.
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No, the republicans who tirelessly continue to fling rumor and baseless allegation, and try to link Barack Obama to anyone who can be categorized as un-American and un-patriotic are disgusting and troubling, yet they fail to see that they cannot follow simple tenents of their own religious ideology. I'm sure heaven is full of hippocrites and always has room for more though.
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07-01-2008, 01:04 PM
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i've been listening to fox news on the radio on my way to work the past few mornings (howard stern is doing re-runs). lately they've been harping on how mccain's past military service is absolutely fucking essential in order to be the next president. i really want to call in an ask where these sentiments were four years ago when they were busy trashing Kerry's war record, while touting bush; who, lets face it, never had any military experience worth mentioning.
all said Gen. Clarks remarks weren't that bad. he essentially said that while mccains conduct as a POW was quite commendable, it shouldn't translate into executive experience. i think he's pretty spot on in that assessment.
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