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Old 08-03-2007, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Another underage alcohol related death...

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_215123845.html

It is sickening to see so much hatred and irrational/misinformed opinions about marijuana, while most Americans turn a blind eye to the dangers of alcohol, and the immaturity of our populace with regard to safely taking intoxicants. Binge drinking is up, and alcohol-related deaths are up. I propose making marijuana legal as a safer alternative to alcohol.

The anti-Marijuana-Rights crowd turns a blind eye to the dangers of alcohol, using propaganda, disinformation and lies to undermine the legitimate and recreational uses of marijuana, which is easily argued to be the safest popularly-used intoxicant. You will not find articles like these about marijuana, only alcohol. Meanwhile, underage Americans die at a rate of 10 a week, directly and indirectly related to consumption of alcohol.

It is time to not only do something about binge drinking and irresponsible drinking in this country, but also it is time to decriminalize marijuana, for it is a much safer alternative to alcohol, a DRUG that kills tens of thousands of Americans every year.

Prohibition didn't work then, and it doesn't work now, and 1000s are sent to jail every year due to the archaic drug policies formed by conservatives in this country 50 years ago.

The prohibition of Marijuana is about:

1) Controlling the population, and how they think
2) Alcohol lobbies, wanting to preserve market share
3) Conservative and religious lobbies demonizing marijuana, imposing their opinions on the nation
4) Dow and other chemical companies trying to undermine hemp production
5) The man trying to keep a brotha' down...


Another article...

Deaths 'Just the Tip of the Iceberg' By Robert Davis
USA TODAY


September has been deadly for binge-drinking college students
Five underclassmen in four states appear to have drunk themselves to death, police say, after friends sent their pals to bed assuming that they would "sleep it off."


Some college presidents are promising to crack down on underage drinking — four of the students were too young to drink legally. Others have shut down fraternity houses where bodies were found.


But one expert calls those moves too little, too late. "It's locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen," says Henry Wechsler, a Harvard University researcher who has studied campus drinking. He says schools with weak enforcement of drinking rules put students at greater risk.


"The schools that have the greatest problems take the easiest solutions," he says. "They have educational programs and re-motivation programs. But they don't try to change the system. These deaths are just the tip of the iceberg."


In some college towns, drink specials at bars and loose enforcement of liquor laws make it easier and cheaper for students to get drunk than to go to a movie, Wechsler says. The result, research suggests, is 1,400 student deaths a year, including alcohol-related falls and car crashes.
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:24 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Ya, but DWI is the most common crime in the US. The system seems to be making good money off it too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmbSZ...rious%5Fscenes

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Kinda gives the name "thetequilaman" a whole new meaning...
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:43 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Ya, but DWI is the most common crime in the US. The system seems to be making good money off it too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmbSZ...rious%5Fscenes

I'm a proud pothead.
We have to stick together brother...

If we get the majority of people in this country realizing that the drug laws are archaic and prejudicial, and that 1000s of innocent people are being sent to jail every month for marijuana possession, then perhaps we might be able to (bare minimum) decriminalize it.

IMO we should legalize it, tax it, and use the tax revenues to fight the real war on drugs- the war against harmful addictive drugs like meth, crack and heroin.

But baby steps...


I have a bumper sticker on my car that says "Prohibition didn't work in the 1920s, and it doesn't work now. I'm NORML." (with National Organization for the Reformation of Marijuana Laws underneath in tiny print).


I have never been pulled over, but I am a bit afraid of that. A bumper sticker is hardly a price to pay for my beliefs.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:02 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Thetequilaman your argument is garbage. Yeh alcohol is way more destructive on any given night and can ruin your life. Pot however will do it slowly and you wont even see it coming. It starts out using it recreationally, then every night, then several times a day, then before you know it, it becomes part of your identity and your sporting norml bumper stickers. Take a month off and see if your whole perspective on life dont change. Even if you can hold a job, relations, etc. you'll never reach your potential being a pot head.
Why do you want it legalized anyway? You can get it anywhere, anytime, and you only get a slap on the wrist if your caught with it. In short grow the Fck up and put down the doobies..
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:12 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Mary Jane > alcohol.

I'de rather have a stoner drive slow and straight than an alkie drive crooked and fast.

Weed is no more addicting that alcohol.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:26 PM   #7 (permalink)

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from what I've read, the general public is overwhelmingly against MJ for recreational use.

The anti-drug industry is a multi billion dollar industry. They will make the general public believe that MJ is worse than alcohol through their propaganda. They will avoid the facts that MJ is less harmful in almost every way. They will ignore the fact that MJ users can drive much better than alcohol abusers and much closer to the level of a completely sober person. They will ignore the fact that MJ users are much more calm and not as likely to commit acts of aggression as compared to alcohol users.

The reason?

They anti-drug businesses/npo's want that cash flow. Would you give up that money? Hell no.
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So because the gov. profits off prosecuting drug users that means that pot is not harmful? Is that true for speeding, dwi, etc.? The fact is that the line had to be drawn somewhere and pot ended up on the other side of the law. Alc. is legal, pot is not. That being sad I dont give a shit what people do(to themselves) Im just sick of stoners trying to debate the merits of pot. Alcohol is actually good for you in moderate doses. Fact is too much of anything is not good, food, water, alc. work, u name it. Get off the alc vs. weed debate its a nonissue.
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Alcohol impairs drivers more:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2063

There's no doubt that weed and alcohol have harmful attributes, but that's not the issue. Recreational drugs are harmful.
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http://health.howstuffworks.com/drug-ranking.htm

March 27, 2007
Scientists in Britain are proposing a complete revamping of drug classifications in the wake of findings that reveal some major discrepancies between a drug's legality and its safeness. A study surveying health, crime and science professionals regarding the dangers of a set of 20 legal and illegal drugs, published in The Lancet in March 2007, found that alcohol and tobacco, which are legal in Britain and the United States, are considered by experts to be more dangerous than ecstasy and marijuana, which are illegal in both countries.
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