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Old 04-03-2008, 01:35 PM   #441 (permalink)

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Thats fine. You keep pulling people over and harassing them for stupid trivial reasons and then wonder why everyone hates you guys.

I would have much more respect for a cop if he told me the truth as for why he pulled me over rather than dealing with some bullshit lies. Why would I be offended if my car looked like a kidnappers? Thats just stupid. What is offensive is being harassed and lied to.
I don't think you understood what he typed. He uses small violations (i.e. tinted windows, not coming to a complete stop, broken tail lights, etc.), which are in themselves proper probable cause to pull people over, to stop vehicles that match descriptions. He is not making up reasons to pull people over; he is pulling them over for things he could already ticket them for. So if you don't offer the probable cause by having those violations, you cannot be pulled over.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:37 PM   #442 (permalink)
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cops pulling folsk over at 2:30 in the morning college kids noooooooooo you dont say lol
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:40 PM   #443 (permalink)

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cops pulling folsk over at 2:30 in the morning college kids noooooooooo you dont say lol
I believe you may be functionally retarded.
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Old 04-03-2008, 02:06 PM   #444 (permalink)
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As for the authority in times of emergency, how would this be done? Who would become the authority, and how would the population be expected to obey the authority when that authority is only temporary and they have not become accustomed to any type of authority? What would happen to those who did not obey the authority during an emergency? IMO authority must be consistent. It cannot come and go as emergency situations come and go. I dont see how any society could transform from a libertarian state to a policed state and back without massive problems.

I will not pretend to know how Chomsky would go about answering your questions and conjectures. Email him. I'd answer in his stead, but I hold different anarchistic philosophies than Chomsky does.
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:11 PM   #445 (permalink)

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In all seriousness this wouldn't be so bad if it had some basis in reality.

But the fact of the matter is that many cops pull someone over and it takes much longer than 5 seconds. There's the license and registration check and an entire interview process where the cop asks several personal questions about the person's night. That's a minimum of 5 minutes. I'll tell a couple of "harmless" stories about being pulled over for nothing, and being stopped for much longer than "5 seconds."

Back in college I was the designated driver several times. I can't even count the number of times I was pulled over driving home at 2:30am after dropping off all my buddies. Every time the cop would say some bullshit about "swerving within the lane" or some other nondescript nonsense.

I've been given field sobriety tests after telling the cop repeatedly that I had nothing to drink, because I was the DD. They they ask me how many drinks? OK, so how when did you stop drinking tonight? Would you mind stepping out of the vehicle? WTF? The end result: no ticket, just a waste of everyone's time.

Once I drove a coworker home after an office Christmas party and was harrassed. This was about seven years ago. She was drunk and half passed out. I only had a drink or two over several hours because I didn't want to be a dipshit in front of the boss. Anyway, some bored cop pulled me over right as I pulled up to her driveway...for nothing. Field sobriety test. Pass. Then he turned his attention to her. Is she alright? What was I planning on doing to her? I just wanted to drop the girl off and he tried to turn it into a rape investigation! WTF? I hadn't had sex with her and didn't plan on it (if I wanted to nail her I would have taken her to my place). I just wanted to drop her off and go home myself. 35 minutes later and he finally let me walk/carry the girl inside her house. Then he "interviewed" me for another 10 minutes before he let me go. For what? No ticket, just a waste of 45 minutes at the end of a Friday night.

The bottom line here is that those "5 second stops" you talk about do not exist. How long does it take to run plates and a want/warrant check?
That all may be true, but the fact of the matter is that the cop doesn't know you. Do you know how many (date) rapes cops have to deal with over the years that started off exactly like how your situation looked? It's much better for a cop to take some time (45 minutes is not that long) to make sure someone is okay than to just ignore it entirely in fear of making someone feel slightly inconvenienced and let some poor drunk chick be violated.
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:19 PM   #446 (permalink)
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LOL, wasn't it you and TX911 and some other authoritarian lover who got sandy vaginas over war roomers pointing out that Officer Riviera was a piece of shit for slapping twelve yr olds around?

I think a lot of the vituperation around here has a lot to do with people like you not understanding the difference between bullying and enforcement of the law. Is it really that difficult to understand that people here have no problem with cops in general? Even when threads with titles like "Cops disgust me" pop up, it seems clear that the TS is talking about his personal situation and is using it for rhetorical effect, which supersensitive types likes yourself bridle at. Learn to distinguish the rhetorical from the actual, and maybe the world won't appear to be as hostile to cops as you seem to think it is.
nah, didn't get a sandy vag, i personally just thought it was funny. Was that the skateboard guy? I'm pretty sure it was. In any case i found the whole thing quite humorous "dude."

Was he wrong? yep. Was he hilarious? Absolutely

truth be told, I would've been in more trouble than the skateboard kid because when i saw his fat ass waddling up to me in that neon yellow shirt and his little black shorts looking like some kind of mexican bumblebee i probably would've literally pissed myself laughing and that makes them madder than anything
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:27 PM   #447 (permalink)
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It must be the steroids you recommended on your steroid website. You know how us steroid users get. Can a steroid user like you recommend something to a steroidded out guy like me to help calm the steroid rage? I figure that a steroidder like you could help, seeing how you give all that steroid advice and openly talk about steroids so much on the steroid MMA board. Did I mention steroids?[
there, that's better. what's wrong with open steroid talk? what's wrong with giving advice? Where exactly did you see me recommending anything? Who said i do steroids? your rage probably has more to do with your young age and not being emotionally or mentally developed enough to handle what's happening with your body. Oh well, i did say i missed your juvenile retorts however lame they may be, and this one was certainly one of your lamest. Besides, i wouldn't recommend any sort of exogenous hormones at your age. They're very dangerous for teenyboppers like yourself. Don't worry, one of these days you'll grow some hair on your chest, your voice will deepen, and that acne will clear right up.


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there it is. pretty much called that one. again, lame and oh so typical


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Old 04-03-2008, 04:16 PM   #448 (permalink)
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I don't think you understood what he typed. He uses small violations (i.e. tinted windows, not coming to a complete stop, broken tail lights, etc.), which are in themselves proper probable cause to pull people over, to stop vehicles that match descriptions. He is not making up reasons to pull people over; he is pulling them over for things he could already ticket them for. So if you don't offer the probable cause by having those violations, you cannot be pulled over.
I understand exactly what he is doing. He is pulling people over and then hassling them for reasons other than what he is willing to admit i.e. lying to their faces. He even said he could pull people over anytime he wanted for any reason he wanted and that he does it all the time. I find this disturbing, unacceptable, and unconstitutional.
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:33 PM   #449 (permalink)

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I understand exactly what he is doing. He is pulling people over and then hassling them for reasons other than what he is willing to admit i.e. lying to their faces. He even said he could pull people over anytime he wanted for any reason he wanted and that he does it all the time. I find this disturbing, unacceptable, and unconstitutional.
It's obvious that you don't because what you said is wrong.

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But the 4th mandates a reason. And I have had cars that I just had to let go because I had no reason. BUT, 1 mph over, the tire moving like a snail at a stop sign, suspension altered 6", window tint, etc, all things I would never write a ticket for, but if we suspect a much more serious crime, then yeah, we'll use it for a reason.
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:56 PM   #450 (permalink)
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Why don't you guys just quit already and stop being such whiny little bitches about it. Sheesh.

Answer: Because you like getting your "hands dirty" being a cop.
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