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Old 05-13-2008, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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vatican: its ok to believe in aliens

Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens - Yahoo! News

Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens By ARIEL DAVID, Associated Press Writer
Tue May 13, 4:07 PM ET



VATICAN CITY - Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview published Tuesday.

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The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, was quoted as saying the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.

"How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Funes said. "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."

In the interview by the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures. Ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom, he said.

The interview, headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," covered a variety of topics including the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, and the theological implications of the existence of alien life.

Funes said science, especially astronomy, does not contradict religion, touching on a theme of Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy.

The Bible "is not a science book," Funes said, adding that he believes the Big Bang theory is the most "reasonable" explanation for the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter.

But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."

Funes urged the church and the scientific community to leave behind divisions caused by Galileo's persecution 400 years ago, saying the incident has "caused wounds."

In 1633 the astronomer was tried as a heretic and forced to recant his theory that the Earth revolved around the sun. Church teaching at the time placed Earth at the center of the universe.

"The church has somehow recognized its mistakes," he said. "Maybe it could have done it better, but now it's time to heal those wounds and this can be done through calm dialogue and collaboration."

Pope John Paul declared in 1992 that the ruling against Galileo was an error resulting from "tragic mutual incomprehension."

The Vatican Observatory has been at the forefront of efforts to bridge the gap between religion and science. Its scientist-clerics have generated top-notch research and its meteorite collection is considered one of the world's best.

The observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII in 1891, is based in Castel Gandolfo, a lakeside town in the hills outside Rome where the pope has a summer residence. It also conducts research at an observatory at the University of Arizona, in Tucson.

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I believe the existence of aliens is direct contradiction on the biblical religions...was there an infinite amount of jesus christs dying on alien planets for aliens too ? if not how come ?
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:35 PM   #2 (permalink)

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I saw that on the news awhile ago
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Yes, i saw that on the news a bit ago. You know what that means, Aliens are real and who know whats realy going on at Area 51 with other secret underground bases.

For real tho, maybe the church knows something that we dont know about
its better they come out and say it now that they exist...at least they can remain in business when proof arrives that there real lol. who knows maybe the jesuits will go planet to planet baptising aliens and spreading the gospel
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To be frank, I think they've been setting us up for the eventual "hey everybody" get together. From movies, to TV, to religion talking about it now.. I sure I sound crazy but at this point in the work day I don't care.
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Do the aliens have their own alien Jesus or will we be obligated to preach the good news to them?
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I've never thought that alien life would have to negate any religious beliefs.

If God has created a Universe that contains that many civilizations it's entirely plausible that God also didn't find the necessity to let men of the ancient biblical day be privy to it.

I think that if I was an omnipotent being or limitless vessel of everlasting energy that I wouldn't see the necessity of making all my creations aware of each other when they could likely be within signifcant distances from each other to begin with.
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Do the aliens have their own alien Jesus or will we be obligated to preach the good news to them?
to clear up any misconceptions about the bible and how all this fits in...

no there would be no alien jesus' and we would not be obligated to preach the word because according to the bible these aliens would not be saved and would not go to heaven. why? because according to the bible only man was created in god's image, and only man is worthy of a seat in heaven. according to the bible xenu is fucked. just like your dog.
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I've never thought that alien life would have to negate any religious beliefs.

If God has created a Universe that contains that many civilizations it's entirely plausible that God also didn't find the necessity to let men of the ancient biblical day be privy to it.

I think that if I was an omnipotent being or limitless vessel of everlasting energy that I wouldn't see the necessity of making all my creations aware of each other when they could likely be within signifcant distances from each other to begin with.
just like back in the day groups of different people where divided by mountains and water from eachother. Then through time and travel led to discoveries of new land with different people.
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I believe that humans were the only beings God created with souls. God breathed life and soul into Man (Gen. 2:7), so I believe that there could be intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe, but they wouldn't be saved by the death of Jesus, b/c they don't have a soul. Just my view though.
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Maybe God regretted mankind and made another civilization to see if they fare any better.
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