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Old 05-14-2008, 05:45 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Why is it that the freedom that so many people are so eager to exercise is the freedom to be a douche bag?
The reason is quite simple: people who express the popular viewpoint usually don't need the protection of freedom of speech. It's the people that express unpopular viewpoints that need their speech protected and it is the people who express unpopular viewpoints that are labeled "douche bags." So that's why you see douche bags in so many free-speech cases.
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:20 PM   #162 (permalink)

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My only concern is if everyone HAS to do it, then it is not really genuine for those who want to choose to do it.
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:10 PM   #163 (permalink)

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Everyone Must Participate In The Two Mintues Of Hate Or The Party Will Take You To Room 101!!!
two minutes of hate?
have you ever even heard the pledge of allegiance?
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:11 PM   #164 (permalink)

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They should have been expelled.

Those with no love for their country have no right to remain here. Least of all to get free schooling.
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:24 PM   #165 (permalink)

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Bellamy salute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"...The Bellamy salute is the hand gesture described by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931) to accompany the American Pledge of Allegiance, which he had authored. During the period when it was used with the Pledge of Allegiance, it was sometimes known as the "flag salute". It was first demonstrated on October 12, 1892 according to Bellamy's published instructions for the "National School Celebration of Columbus Day":



The initial military salute was replaced with a hand-on-heart gesture, followed by the extension of the arm as described by Bellamy. Because of the similarity of this arm extension to the Hitler salute, the Bellamy salute was widely replaced around 1942 with the modern gesture of placing the hand over the heart without raising the arm.[citation needed] In 1943, the Daughters of the American Revolution, initially resistant to the change, endorsed the hand-on-heart gesture during the Pledge.[1]"

Try to do some research before posting here, son.

your original post insinuated that america was similar to hitler's regime.
this post proves that in trying to distance ourselves from him because of his actions, we are not.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:12 AM   #166 (permalink)

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two minutes of hate?
have you ever even heard the pledge of allegiance?
moron.
Looking at your previous posts, it's not surprising that a basic high-school literary reference would fiy right over your head.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:17 AM   #167 (permalink)

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And the people who are crying about respect want it to be enforced by the threat of violence or sanction, no surprise there.

There is a big difference between respect that should be given voluntarily, and respect that is mandated by force. IMO, this country wasn't founded on the latter, otherwise today's generation would still be still kissing the rings of English royalty.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:57 AM   #168 (permalink)

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Retarded, this must be an American speciality.
I`ve never even heard of this kind of stuff.
Is this some shit you`ve have to listen to every day?
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There is a big difference between respect that should be given voluntarily, and respect that is mandated by force. IMO, this country wasn't founded on the latter, otherwise today's generation would still be still kissing the rings of English royalty.
Well its seems like we demanded and fought England, and forced them to respect us and our independence. So I guess I dont agree with you. If it wasnt for the force, we would have had no respect , and we would be kissing Englands rings.
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Well its seems like we demanded and fought England, and forced them to respect us and our independence. So I guess I dont agree with you. If it wasnt for the force, we would have had no respect , and we would be kissing Englands rings.
This argument makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Colonists at that time were subjects of the king and were supposed to pay him allegiance. There would have been no independence at all if colonists hadn't stood up to the British forces, who demanded their loyalty by force.
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