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10-30-2009, 02:07 PM
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Valuev vs Haye
Does Valuev has any path to victory? I just don't see it. Why isn't Haye a bigger favorite?
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10-30-2009, 04:19 PM
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Yeah, if he gets out of the first 2 or 3 rds.
If he gets out of rd 5, Valuev's chances of victory go up astronomically.
I still think Haye blows him out in 2 rds though.
When Haye hurts Valuev early which is definitely the plan, I hope the moment doesn't slip away from him...He must finish him early.
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10-30-2009, 04:32 PM
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I think Valuev might beat Haye.
Valuev is better than people think he is and Haye is not.
While Valuevs record isn't studded with stars, hes fought some OK fighters and I can't even think of a fight where he was really hurt. I'm not sure what Haye can do here.
I don't think he can stop Valuev.
IMO, this was not a good fight for Haye to take. Valuev seems beatable, but not in his backyard IMO and like I said, I don't think Haye stops him.
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10-30-2009, 04:41 PM
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I don't think this is a gimme fight for Haye. I expect a much better Valuev to come to the ring than the one that fought Holyfield.
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10-30-2009, 05:41 PM
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Yeah i'm not 100% convinced of a Haye victory either
I think he can probably ko him but i wouldn't be so surprised to see Valuev get the victory either
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10-30-2009, 05:49 PM
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BTW, Hayes best win is a guy Valuev knocked out a few years ago.
I dn't see any reason for haye to be favored in this.
I hope he wins, but it'll be an upset IMO if he does.
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10-30-2009, 05:59 PM
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Purple Belt
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Yeah i don't know
Valuev didn't really look good in his past few fights
I mean, h'se never looked great, but I've seen him fight better in the past
I really thought he was going to destroy bergeron in his comeback fight and he actually looked like shit against him, except in the last 2 rounds maybe
And old man holeyfield arguably beat him
I don't think it's that crazy to have Haye as a slight favorite
But I agree that Valuev could very well win this fight
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10-30-2009, 06:47 PM
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Purple Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seano
I think Valuev might beat Haye.
Valuev is better than people think he is and Haye is not.
While Valuevs record isn't studded with stars, hes fought some OK fighters and I can't even think of a fight where he was really hurt. I'm not sure what Haye can do here.
I don't think he can stop Valuev.
IMO, this was not a good fight for Haye to take. Valuev seems beatable, but not in his backyard IMO and like I said, I don't think Haye stops him.
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I agree with you entirely. Valuev looks deceptively slow in relation to his opponents but he is relatively quick, has a great jab, and he's definitely not getting hurt by haye. If Haye brings the fight to him then he will get ko'd. If he gets hurt and plays a more cautious, reserved game for the duration of the bout from that point on then we're going to see a Valuev win on points and Haye is going to be like
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10-30-2009, 06:57 PM
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I want a Haye win for the future of the division, but I think Valuev wins on points.
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10-30-2009, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seano
BTW, Hayes best win is a guy Valuev knocked out a few years ago...
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Valuev KO'd Enzo Maccarinelli?
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