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Old 05-10-2008, 07:40 PM   #171 (permalink)

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Why would the african american as opposed to the african boxer have a speed advantage. For that matter at the lighter weights hispanic and asian boxers have a significant speed anvantage, and african americans dont figure that highly
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:45 PM   #172 (permalink)

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You have to take into account the number of practitioners though. I'm willing to bet that theres more Hispanics fighting at lower weights, as someone else said the popularity of the sport also as to be taken into account. Theres probably a higher number of Mexicans Boxers per capita than Americans or African Americans, i might be wrong though.

Also Hispanics as in (South Americans) and Asians generally have a smaller build (which again is genetic, and does not mean there aren't very tall Asians or Hispanics), so they would be more concentrated on lower divisions.

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Old 05-10-2008, 10:34 PM   #173 (permalink)

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I couldn't find a word for it because English is not my first language.
You write very well for someone who is using their second language.

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So Africans beat everyone in PHD's... Do you mean African Americans, or Africans as a whole?
Africans who moved to the U.S. They have their shit together. As an immigrant group, they are going to be on top (very wealthy, respected and powerful) faster than any other group in the history of the United States.

This is a wiki link, but the numbers are accurate:

African immigration to the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As a group they are beating everyone in education which will lead to wealth as they move along. An african doctor is going to become a cliche like a drunk irishman, a black dude who does not have his shit together, a jewish lawyer, a mexican dude busting his ass working construction or a retarded texan.

The reality in the United States is: a guy who moved to the US, but was born in Ghana is more likely to get his PHD than a guy born in France or England. People from Africa do not have under-developed brains.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:30 AM   #174 (permalink)

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Rightly or wrongly, I revert to football (soccer) for these discussions. Of any sport, it's the one practiced by the human race as a whole. And no "race" has been dominant. South Americans, "white" europeans, blacks etc all succeed. The issue of race in regards to success in sports in my amateur opinion, is exaggerated.
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Rightly or wrongly, I revert to football (soccer) for these discussions. Of any sport, it's the one practiced by the human race as a whole. And no "race" has been dominant. South Americans, "white" europeans, blacks etc all succeed. The issue of race in regards to success in sports in my amateur opinion, is exaggerated.
Why are there very few Indian Pakistan Chinese footballers etc they have the population India has the second biggest in the world China the biggest and they are intrested in football its very big in China for example.
I cant name one top class Indian or Chinese or Pakistania footballer and its a big enough sport in these countrys.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:33 AM   #176 (permalink)

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Rightly or wrongly, I revert to football (soccer) for these discussions. Of any sport, it's the one practiced by the human race as a whole. And no "race" has been dominant. South Americans, "white" europeans, blacks etc all succeed. The issue of race in regards to success in sports in my amateur opinion, is exaggerated.
As a race the Italians and Germans have been the most sucessfull dominant on the world stage.
And obviously the Brazilians although they are much more mixed race than the other two.
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:05 AM   #177 (permalink)

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You write very well for someone who is using their second language.



Africans who moved to the U.S. They have their shit together. As an immigrant group, they are going to be on top (very wealthy, respected and powerful) faster than any other group in the history of the United States.

This is a wiki link, but the numbers are accurate:

African immigration to the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As a group they are beating everyone in education which will lead to wealth as they move along. An african doctor is going to become a cliche like a drunk irishman, a black dude who does not have his shit together, a jewish lawyer, a mexican dude busting his ass working construction or a retarded texan.

The reality in the United States is: a guy who moved to the US, but was born in Ghana is more likely to get his PHD than a guy born in France or England. People from Africa do not have under-developed brains.
Thats probably because the person from Ghana has come from such poverty they have greater drive to be a sucsess.
History tells me that whites came into the US as wealthy as could be at the time and also owning most of the world at that point so unless Africans in America or moving to America have plans for world domination i more than doubt they could beat that.
I seriously doubt any racial group will become richer faster quicker than any other group than before because thats just not the way the world works now.
Fact is you get thick stupid black white brown whatever colour people just as you get clever people of all races.
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:12 AM   #178 (permalink)

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And no people from Africa dont have under developed brains compared to anywere eles were they recieve the same sort of stimulus as far as i know.
And i dont see or understand why they would.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:11 PM   #179 (permalink)

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do not compare these things to soccer. It is different everybody does good in soccer these days, the elites are'nt gonna hold out for long, brazil and italy among other european nations are getting trouble from other smaller nations you know. Race does'nt factor on this.
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Why are there very few Indian Pakistan Chinese footballers etc they have the population India has the second biggest in the world China the biggest and they are intrested in football its very big in China for example.
I cant name one top class Indian or Chinese or Pakistania footballer and its a big enough sport in these countrys.
Quit it already, that argument holds no water. The reason Pakistanis/Chinese are not as highly ranked as other countries in football is because most of them do not care about football.

By your reasoning Pakistanis are the greatest athletes in the world because of their dominating perfomances in Cricket. Most Countries have few great Athletes in some sports and alot of great Athlethes in other Sports. this is NOT what is being discussed. And is more related to Cultural and Political aspects than genetic ones.

Listen, i can certaintly see everyones point, im definetly not racist or anything of the sorts, just nihilisticly objective, and to me theres certaintly some correlation in these theories.

I can't see why people will be so quick to say Africans have an "Genetic Athletic advantage" but not see the other side of the issue. As i said adaptaion / micro-evolution.

If you don't believe any race has any physical advantage over others than fair enough.

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