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11-03-2009, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by vjvj
"Meh" qualifies for understatement of the year.
My understanding is that the only reason he's into movies is because he's gaming some government policy that provides compensation for certain movie projects. Or something like that. Regardless, no one should be happy that this movie is happening with this director. Nothing good can come of this.
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Agree
He's awful
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11-03-2009, 01:52 AM
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Continuing the trend of making boxing movies about white boxers who were rivals to the greatest boxers of all time, i.e., Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull.
Maybe Sugar Ray Robinson and Joe Louis were just too good to be interesting protagonists or something? Of course, they're black and they weren't either communists or dedicated political radicals, so I guess that seals their fate.
Its funny, Hurricane Carter gets a Hollywood movie, Joe Louis and Robinson, the greatest heavyweight and the greatest ever respectively, get nothing other than the undying adoration of legions of boxing fans and pundits, the satisfaction that comes with being the greatest ever at your craft and, perhaps, a place in God's kingdom, Providence willing.
But no Hollywood movie. If Ray Robinson had only had the foresight to get framed for forcing himself upon a white woman or joined W.D. Fard's version of the Nation of Islam during his upbringing in Detroit or at least announced himself a communist...then he'd have had at least one major Hollywood feature. Maybe Joe Louis can somehow capitalize on the way the US government paid him back for all the money he raised for free on behalf of their war effort to have a movie made. They could play up the "black guy got screwed" element or something.
Speaking of which: The Cinderella Man. Come on now.
At least Joe Frazier sort of, kind of has Rocky, of which he is just as much an inspiration for as Chuck Wepner.
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11-03-2009, 01:57 AM
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haha uwe boll
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11-03-2009, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforcer
Continuing the trend of making boxing movies about white boxers who were rivals to the greatest boxers of all time, i.e., Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull.
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yeah............. Raging Bull was a great movie nonetheless. I think you're mising the point. I don't think before they make a movie they look at their top ten lists of best fighters ever and start with number 1.
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11-03-2009, 02:04 AM
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Wow. Uwe Boll is a total nut-job. He challenged Michael Bay to a boxing match? I guess I'd heard about that but forgot; 5-0 against negative movie critics. What a bad-ass. Yeah.
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11-03-2009, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gontran
yeah............. Raging Bull was a great movie nonetheless. I think you're mising the point. I don't think before they make a movie they look at their top ten lists of best fighters ever and start with number 1.
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My point wasn't that Raging Bull was a poor movie. My point is that white boxers most famous for being opponents to the greatest boxers of all time who happen to be black seem to generally be the subjects of big budget boxing films.
Its interesting that the two black boxers who did get movies made about them--big budget movies--were Hurricane Cart and Ali, who of course, have this huge political relevance to the left.
Of Raging Bull, I'll say this; it is odd that LaMotta got a whole movie to himself and Sugar Ray Robinson, the greatest boxer there has been in the minds of 95% of boxers, pundits, etc. gets about five minutes in the film.
I mean, hey, people have a right to make movies about whoever they want. I think part of it is that when you are essentially the greatest at something, making a movie about your life is more difficult.
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11-03-2009, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Kforcer
My point wasn't that Raging Bull was a poor movie. My point is that white boxers most famous for being opponents to the greatest boxers of all time who happen to be black seem to generally be the subjects of big budget boxing films.
Its interesting that the two black boxers who did get movies made about them--big budget movies--were Hurricane Cart and Ali, who of course, have this huge political relevance to the left.
Of Raging Bull, I'll say this; it is odd that LaMotta got a whole movie to himself and Sugar Ray Robinson, the greatest boxer there has been in the minds of 95% of boxers, pundits, etc. gets about five minutes in the film.
I mean, hey, people have a right to make movies about whoever they want. I think part of it is that when you are essentially the greatest at something, making a movie about your life is more difficult.
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LaMotta had a movie made of him because DeNiro read his book and was inspired by it. To be honest you won't find too many boxers with more interesting life stories than LaMotta.
A movie is made about Schmeling in Germany by a German director. Big surprise there.
Jake steals the show everywhere he is at:
YouTube - The Way It Was - Sugar Ray Robinson and Jake LaMotta look back on their rivalry 2/3
YouTube - Mike Tyson joins David Brenner on his late night talk show, Nightlife Pt. 2
Last edited by TheGreatA; 11-03-2009 at 06:35 AM.
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11-03-2009, 08:24 AM
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Uwe Boll...Damn he gets around. I hope he doesnt make a mess of this, even though he most likely will.
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11-03-2009, 09:05 AM
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Black Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kforcer
My point wasn't that Raging Bull was a poor movie. My point is that white boxers most famous for being opponents to the greatest boxers of all time who happen to be black seem to generally be the subjects of big budget boxing films.
Its interesting that the two black boxers who did get movies made about them--big budget movies--were Hurricane Cart and Ali, who of course, have this huge political relevance to the left.
Of Raging Bull, I'll say this; it is odd that LaMotta got a whole movie to himself and Sugar Ray Robinson, the greatest boxer there has been in the minds of 95% of boxers, pundits, etc. gets about five minutes in the film.
I mean, hey, people have a right to make movies about whoever they want. I think part of it is that when you are essentially the greatest at something, making a movie about your life is more difficult.
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I don't really think this is that big of an issue.
Like being upset with Public Enemy for not making more (any) cauco-centric songs.
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11-03-2009, 09:57 AM
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Well, at least the actor looks like him.
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