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Originally Posted by webeballin
Greatness in terms of fighting and winning in a tough era against all top opposition avaliable at the time and avenging all losses suffered before hand? yep sounds pretty great to me
you can cut up anyones reseme and merely dismiss them it's not hard to do,and holyfield got jobbed? when? in the first fight when he won three rounds at best and recieved an asolute gift of a decision? or in the second fight where he showed improvement and managed to win two more rounds.I you had wrote that on paper I swear you would have had a troll topper on the tip of your pen or pencil or it could be possible that you would use a quill but unless you were a harry potter fanatic then that would just be plain silly in this day and age...............I guess your entitled to your opinion
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Webe....Actually I thought Holyfield lost that first fight. A sloppy, ugly fight that, for months after, I would pop into my vhs player if I had insomnia and needed to get to sleep before work. Worked better than NODOZ. The 2nd fight ?......I thought Holy squeaked it out, but once again, not a world burner by any stretch. And that's my point. Holy was way past his A game and was ready to be taken. Lennox had all the tools on paper to do it decisively (while dead bang in the middle of his prime )......but fumbled the ball. Twice !
Mercer was also past his best days and Lennox looked lousy......Huffing and puffing his way through the rounds and getting hit with shots that he never should've been hit with. Mercer made it a close fight -against a physical juggernaut who should've blown through him.....but didn't !
To me, Klitschko is living in the only era in history that is conducive to him being a world champ.If he had come along at any other time, he' be nothing more than Knuckle candy.....A slow, plodding HW who gasses early and stays gassed throughout the fight, waiting for his opponent to find some way to self destruct.....and yet he takes Lennox into deep water and was probably ahead when the fight was stopped.
I just don't see the late 90's through the early 00's as a talent packed era as some have mentioned here. I grew up watching Ali, Liston, Quarry, Lyle, Foreman, Norton, Shavers, Holmes, Frazier, Chuvalo, Patterson, Mathis, Bugner, Young, Spencer, Folley and a dozen or so others.......An era when even the fringe contenders were men who could've been world champions during a different time.
LL ( and the Klitschko's ) are a hard sell to folks who grew up watching these guys fight.....
