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Old 07-05-2009, 12:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Ali or Louis, without a doubt.

there are strong suspicions Demsey may have loaded his gloves so his legacy is tarnished.
No.

And I know because I was there.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Lennox had a suspect chin IMHO. He barely scraped past a fading Ray Mercer and certainly had Lady Luck in his corner the night he fought Klitschko. McCall knocked his wee wee in the resin box and Rahman did the same. Rahman and McCall would'nt crack the top 25 or top 30 back in the 60's and 70's......and here Lewis is getting Ko'd by them !
Wasn't Manuel Ramos a top ten heavyweight during one stage in the 60's? Rahman and McCall may never be looked upon as elite champions but they were proven at that level and many great ighters have lost to far worse opponents during their career

You say Lewis had a suspect chin while listing two big punchers in Vitali Klitschko and Ray Mercer as examples in bouts where he took their biggest cleanest shots without being dropped


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Joe Louis would beat the piss out of Lennox. Terrible style matchup for the fake-Brit.
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I'm going to say Ali, Louis, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Marciano, Frazier, Liston, Tunney, and Dempsy...
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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With weight cutting today Jack Dempsey would fight as a middleweight, tops. He's not a real heavyweight in my opinion.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:53 PM   #27 (permalink)

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Nah, you don't get knocked out Rahman and McCall and be the best.
Or out-boxed by ray mercer and evander holyfield (2nd fight).

Lewis was an awesome heavyweight, but he had some major weaknesses that would have been exploited by guys like ali, louis, and holmes.
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:58 PM   #28 (permalink)

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Wasn't Manuel Ramos a top ten heavyweight during one stage in the 60's? Rahman and McCall may never be looked upon as elite champions but they were proven at that level and many great ighters have lost to far worse opponents during their career

You say Lewis had a suspect chin while listing two big punchers in Vitali Klitschko and Ray Mercer as examples in bouts where he took their biggest cleanest shots without being dropped




Stylistic matchups don't exist outside of internet forums
Let's look at some of Lennox's opponents:

Holyfield ?........ Past his prime when they met and Lennox struggled with him.

Tyson ?........Three years in prison took him off the top shelf.

Bruno ?.........A decent fighter who could'nt clear the bar at it's highest point.

Morrison ?.......An over rated left hooker with little else in his bag.

Klitschko ?......Don't get me started.

Mercer ?.......Mercer's best days were behind him when he hooked with Lennox.

Botha ?.......A fun guy to watch, but he's no modern day Billy Conn.

Golota ?........Nuff Said.

Briggs ?........Bang Bang Briggs used to gas out during the National Anthem.

Tua ?...... A decent and dangerous challenger. I give Lennox credit there.


There's a few decent fighters there. The great ones were well past their prime when they hooked with Lennox, and even then, they took Lennox to the limit (and Holyfield may have been jobbed in one of those fights).

Greatness ?..........I'm just not seeing it.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:46 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Lewis is good but he ain't no Ali.
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:04 PM   #30 (permalink)

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I'm not sure Lewis even makes my top ten of all time heavyweights. Tyson and Holyfield were past their primes and the other heavyweights during his era just weren't that good overall. And Vitali was on his way to putting a beat down on him. I think in their prime both Klitschko brothers would beat Lewis without a problem. Louis, Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Dempsy, Tunney, Marciano, Liston, Patterson, Frazier.
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