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Old 10-23-2009, 06:54 AM   #11 (permalink)

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Fedor's "boxing" style works for him because of his rushes and grappling in MMA. If he were in a boxing match, he would get killed but likewise, there isn't a boxer in the world that could last a single round against him in an MMA fight.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:03 AM   #12 (permalink)

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God damn reality tv to Hell! Even as the voice-over is telling us all about Fedor's "devestating" punches, we're seeing a bunch of bullshit shots that do virtually no damage, except maybe to Fedor's thumbs.

"Fedor has used this to land devestating blows on his opponents' head and body..."

Pity that what I saw was a bunch of ineffective shots that landed on the arms and did no damage...

And Riley, based solely on your demonstration, I'd call that some kind of "reverse back-fist" and if you tried that on a straight boxer I reckon you'd be asking for either an uppercut or a short, straight-right to the jaw...
Tell all the people Igor has knocked out with that punch that it's ineffective. Fedor throws the same kind of punch but instead of haymakers like igor he uses them to set up takedowns. Gary Goodridge who's fougth just about everyone said that Igor and Fedor had the hardest punches.
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not so much against Arlovski
Arlovski?

The guy he knocked out in midair?

That Arlovski?
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:35 AM   #14 (permalink)

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Since when did Fedor have monstrous power?
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Fedor's "boxing" style works for him because of his rushes and grappling in MMA. If he were in a boxing match, he would get killed but likewise, there isn't a boxer in the world that could last a single round against him in an MMA fight.
In Boxing, 201 lbs or more (unlimited upper end) is Heavyweight.

In Boxing, the Cruiserweight limit is 200 lbs which means some of these guys sweat off water to make weight, but are well above 200 lbs the next night for the fight.

Those 2 weight classes combined have about 2 thousand licensed professional fighters.

How can you say with certainty that Fedor could beat all 2 thousand of these professional fighters without suffering a single setback simply because the fight took place in a cage RE: "there isn't a boxer in the world that could last a single round against him in an MMA fight."

Fedor would be fighting legitimate world-class strikers, not grappling masters with relatively mediocre standup skills that they added later.
With a few notable exceptions like Machida or Anderson Silva, such is the case for most MMA fighters: outstanding grapplers with comparatively inadequate standup.
Their standup is not close to the level of their grappling.
Their standup is not close to the level of world-class strikers.

What if Fedor got caught by the first devastating punch of an old boxer who really knows how to punch like David Tua for instance?

The next lightest weight class in Boxing is Light-Heavyweight 175 lbs, but a Light-Heavy like 40 year old Antonio Tarver stands 6'2" and walks around at about 210 lbs or so between fights. There's over 700 professional Light-Heavyweights; maybe one of those guys could pull a surprise against Fedor too.


I think 6', 205 lb Vitor Belfort, primarily a boxer in style, would KO Fedor.
I made a thread about this last January.

The fight actually almost happened in August when Belfort accepted the fight on 10 days notice after Barnett failed the drug test.
Belfort was in shape as he was scheduled to fight on the undercard, but he was the first choice as a replacement for Barnett, and Belfort accepted the fight in a heartbeat. He had expressed interest in fighting Fedor earlier that year too.
In August, Dana White had already expressed interest in bringing in Belfort to the UFC as an opponent for Anderson Silva. Anderson really doesn't want the Belfort fight either.

Fans underestimate and write off Belfort, but the fighters don't.
The fighters recognize the serious danger this guy represents, and Belfort running hot-and-cold simply adds to the drama.

He'll never be as good a fighter as Fedor, he'll never have the legacy, but I've long thought he's a terrible style matchup for Fedor.
Fedor destroys big slow guys, but he's never fought a guy faster than himself with KO power in his hands like the explosive Brazilian southpaw.


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Arlovski?

The guy he knocked out in midair?

That Arlovski?
Yes that Arlovski. The guy that decided to stop boxing(though it was working) and attempt a Super Mario Bros style flying knee.

What was he thinking?
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Yes that Arlovski. The guy that decided to stop boxing(though it was working) and attempt a Super Mario Bros style flying knee.

What was he thinking?
One of the most frustrating fights i've ever watched.

I was just in complete shock that a professional fighter could have that much of a brain fart in the biggest fight of his career.
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Yep, the boxing was working...until he broke from the gameplan and threw that flying knee...



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One of the most frustrating fights i've ever watched.

I was just in complete shock that a professional fighter could have that much of a brain fart in the biggest fight of his career.



Arlovski Sylvia 2 might even be worse. Just watch in slow motion when Arlovski actually dropped his hands and winded up a right hand from a far and missed.
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