[Absolut]

Originally Posted by US Tomato Can

One can only hope.

i don't-- i'd miss seeing people fuck themselves up on break.com

[Hellmurder]

So how did the UFC ppv compare to Pac/Morales?

Also, The UFC and Pride need to see what Pac/Morales did, and try and capitalize on that, by making lighter weight classes. Take a 120 ibs fighter. what choices does he have right now? Nothing but boxing, so boxing will never lose a PacMan to MMA or Football, or Basketball. Heavier guys got to much choices.

[Maverick34]

Originally Posted by Kid McCoy

Whoo.....Not so fast.
There's plenty of room for more than one fightsport out there.

Hardly a 3rd tier sport.

Witness that Willie Pep’s death took up 4 consecutive days on the front cover of the Hartford Courant, American’s oldest daily newspaper.

Today’s hot stuff comes and goes as fast as you can say “in sync”, but history holds firm to very deep roots.

It has only been in the last generation that basketball, football, soccer and golf have joined Baseball in surpassing Boxing as a spectator social institution.

And yet none of these sports have ever produced an international icon equal to a Muhammad Ali or Joe Louis, who are as known through the world as Babe Ruth and Michael Jordan are in their U.S. homebase, and the nation producing the lion’s share of global sports revenue still resolutely rejects the existence of Soccer, viewing it as “a weak little sport for weak little people in weak little countries”, in the words of one sport writer.

In very recent years, propelled by their tie-in as recreational pursuits, Hockey and Tennis have also nudged up beyond boxing in the sports pages as well, owing singularly to the unpalatable nature of a combat sport, which are problems, actually, that MMA and K-1 face in far greater numbers than Boxing, so the main thing keeping Boxing out of the limelight will cause even greater obstacles for a sport without any history or pedigree.

This is why MMA is seen as a PPV & Video sales exhibition, rather than an actual sport reported on by the Associated Press.

In terms if the ‘Mainstream”, which sherdoggers have distanced themselves from completely in regards to their sports, John McCain, a strong contender for the next leader of the free world stated his observation after watching an MMA card: “to hit a man when he was down was un-American”, and called it "human cockfighting".

As recently as July of this year, McCain reiterated his intentions to ban the sport, should he get the opportunity, and if the 2008 presidential election polls have at merit this early in the sampling, his opportunity will come in exactly 24 months.

Despite one noted businessman’s rosy picture, painted as he promotes his product from his soapbox, the next big thing may turn out to be a big surprise for the lovers of the nouveau fight sport rules.

Younger people have always been less able to distinguish fads from historical trends, however, which is a fact, and one very much in evidence here.

I agree with the general points you make but a few nits to pick:

1. If you want to disassociate Boxing from perceptions of decline and anachronism....try not to cite Hartford CT or the newspaper industry (sorry any Hartford residents who may be reading this)!

2. I agree that Ali was one of the most important sports figures of all time, probably #1, and one of the most important people of the 20th century - BUT, at this point in the game, due to increased media and marketing, I'd say Michael Jordan is at least as well known as Ali was at his peak. Put it this way as just a general example, I have traveled a lot through China, you will see basketball hoops in/on/in the shadow of the Tibetan plateau, the Great Wall, the Forbidden City, the Gobi Desert...etc; I sure didn't see any boxing rings. Now, as far as who is more intriguing or who stood for or accomplished more globally, I'd go for Ali, as Jordan the concept is largely a marketing shell, but he's one damned well known marketing shell.

On another note, though he's not even on the England team any more, the phenomenal popularity of David Beckham in Asia is hard to overstate.

[TimmyC]

Ah love them both man, mma and boxing; I do!
I hope both get incredibly more popular and wipe out all ' boring 'sports such as: nascar, golf, baseball, bowling, soccer, etc. We should all join in making those atrocious sports die a quick death somehow. There are really only 3 sports: mma, boxing, and football.

[RA]

I know boxing is really far from being dead in Mexico and Mexican American comunities, in America as a whole it is on life support.

[Carmine]

Boxing is dead


.... I like MMA tough

[US Tomato Can]

Comcast is now offering boxing PPVs with their own channel Versus. And look at that...no MMA coverage whatsoever.

[kingdust420]

Originally Posted by Tiimmy

Ah love them both man, mma and boxing; I do!
I hope both get incredibly more popular and wipe out all ' boring 'sports such as: nascar, golf, baseball, bowling, soccer, etc. We should all join in making those atrocious sports die a quick death somehow. There are really only 3 sports: mma, boxing, and football.

You should make yourself die a quick death somehow.

[Absolut]

Originally Posted by Tiimmy

Ah love them both man, mma and boxing; I do!
I hope both get incredibly more popular and wipe out all ' boring 'sports such as: nascar, golf, baseball, bowling, soccer, etc. We should all join in making those atrocious sports die a quick death somehow. There are really only 3 sports: mma, boxing, and football.

you just said bowling is a sport...

[CarbonB]

Probably because it is.....