[Kamehameha]

Boxing is dead indeed

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...VgOlTXmmP.html
350,000 buy Pacquiao-Morales!

Wednesday, November 29 2006


HBO Sports reported today that the Pacquiao-Morales 3 fight generated 350,000 buys and $17.5 million of PPV revenue, making it the highest grossing lighter-weight fight in HBOPPV's history. With the strong performance of the third and deciding fight, the Pacquiao-Morales trilogy generated 1,060,000 buys and $49.4 million in PPV revenue. With its year now complete, HBOPPV reports that its boxing events in 2006 generated 3.7 million buys and $177 million in PPV revenue, making it the 2nd-biggest year since HBOPPV's inception in 1991, second only to 1999 when 4 million buys were generated in a year highlighted by De La Hoya-Trinidad, De La Hoya-Quartey, and Holyfield-Lewis I and II.


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HBOPPV's Mark Taffet said, "We're very pleased with the performance of Pacquiao-Morales 3. It was a very exciting fight for boxing fans, was the highest-grossing fight we've ever had in the lighter weight classes, and concluded a memorable trilogy in which over 1 million buys and nearly $50 million of PPV revenue was generated by two fighters weighing a combined 260 pounds. Boxing fans showed great support of the sport in 2006, and we are looking forward to another exciting year in 2007."

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and this is just HBO, not counting Showtime. While i hate PPV and feel it hurts boxing (far more people would watch if fights were free) this is nice to see. Hopefully more great fights are advertised, since the current advertising situation sux ass. Very few casual sport fans will kno about Cotto-Quintana this weekend unless they live in NY or Jersey.

[Sharkhunter]

Don't show the other sherdoggers this (in the other forums) there would be mass suicides

[FIGHT FAN]

the whole boxing is dead crap is just propaganda brought on by dana white and the online MMA community.

[Maverick34]

Boxing is dead, TUF is replacing the Sopranos, deal with it guys.

[Mr_Helmer]

There is room for both Boxing and MMA, i'm a fan of both and I would hate to see either die, I seriously doubt that would happen anyway.

[chosen_one]

Originally Posted by FIGHT FAN

the whole boxing is dead crap is just propaganda brought on by dana white and the online MMA community.

Try finding any in depth coverage in any of the daily papers around the USA. Go to ESPN.com and find it right BELOW scouts and tennis,but at least still above the WNBA. All is no where near right in the boxing world. Yes we still have some die-hards but, how many new fans are being made out there. It seems boxing has been relagated to a third teir sport. Besides in the sissification of this country who wants to see someone get hit, uhh thats just for rednecks.

[Kid McCoy]

Originally Posted by chosen_one

Try finding any in depth coverage in any of the daily papers around the USA. Go to ESPN.com and find it right BELOW scouts and tennis,but at least still above the WNBA. All is no where near right in the boxing world. Yes we still have some die-hards but, how many new fans are being made out there. It seems boxing has been relagated to a third teir sport. Besides in the sissification of this country who wants to see someone get hit, uhh thats just for rednecks.

Whoo.....Not so fast.
There's plenty of room for more than one fightsport out there.

Hardly a 3rd tier sport.

Witness that Willie Pep’s death took up 4 consecutive days on the front cover of the Hartford Courant, American’s oldest daily newspaper.

Today’s hot stuff comes and goes as fast as you can say “in sync”, but history holds firm to very deep roots.

It has only been in the last generation that basketball, football, soccer and golf have joined Baseball in surpassing Boxing as a spectator social institution.

And yet none of these sports have ever produced an international icon equal to a Muhammad Ali or Joe Louis, who are as known through the world as Babe Ruth and Michael Jordan are in their U.S. homebase, and the nation producing the lion’s share of global sports revenue still resolutely rejects the existence of Soccer, viewing it as “a weak little sport for weak little people in weak little countries”, in the words of one sport writer.

In very recent years, propelled by their tie-in as recreational pursuits, Hockey and Tennis have also nudged up beyond boxing in the sports pages as well, owing singularly to the unpalatable nature of a combat sport, which are problems, actually, that MMA and K-1 face in far greater numbers than Boxing, so the main thing keeping Boxing out of the limelight will cause even greater obstacles for a sport without any history or pedigree.

This is why MMA is seen as a PPV & Video sales exhibition, rather than an actual sport reported on by the Associated Press.

In terms if the ‘Mainstream”, which sherdoggers have distanced themselves from completely in regards to their sports, John McCain, a strong contender for the next leader of the free world stated his observation after watching an MMA card: “to hit a man when he was down was un-American”, and called it "human cockfighting".

As recently as July of this year, McCain reiterated his intentions to ban the sport, should he get the opportunity, and if the 2008 presidential election polls have at merit this early in the sampling, his opportunity will come in exactly 24 months.

Despite one noted businessman’s rosy picture, painted as he promotes his product from his soapbox, the next big thing may turn out to be a big surprise for the lovers of the nouveau fight sport rules.

Younger people have always been less able to distinguish fads from historical trends, however, which is a fact, and one very much in evidence here.

[Sharkhunter]

Originally Posted by Mr_Helmer

There is room for both Boxing and MMA, i'm a fan of both and I would hate to see either die, I seriously doubt that would happen anyway.

I feel the same way. The problem is everytime I ordered a UFC or I come on this web site I have to defend boxing from all the bashing. That (I'm not even going to say it) Rogan or what ever his name is has something stupid to say every other word out of his mouth all in a lame attempt to make his sport look better. I have not ordered a UFC in a long time

[Absolut]

Originally Posted by Kid McCoy

Whoo.....Not so fast.
There's plenty of room for more than one fightsport out there.

Hardly a 3rd tier sport.

Witness that Willie Pep’s death took up 4 consecutive days on the front cover of the Hartford Courant, American’s oldest daily newspaper.

Today’s hot stuff comes and goes as fast as you can say “in sync”, but history holds firm to very deep roots.

It has only been in the last generation that basketball, football, soccer and golf have joined Baseball in surpassing Boxing as a spectator social institution.

And yet none of these sports have ever produced an international icon equal to a Muhammad Ali or Joe Louis, who are as known through the world as Babe Ruth and Michael Jordan are in their U.S. homebase, and the nation producing the lion’s share of global sports revenue still resolutely rejects the existence of Soccer, viewing it as “a weak little sport for weak little people in weak little countries”, in the words of one sport writer.

In very recent years, propelled by their tie-in as recreational pursuits, Hockey and Tennis have also nudged up beyond boxing in the sports pages as well, owing singularly to the unpalatable nature of a combat sport, which are problems, actually, that MMA and K-1 face in far greater numbers than Boxing, so the main thing keeping Boxing out of the limelight will cause even greater obstacles for a sport without any history or pedigree.

This is why MMA is seen as a PPV & Video sales exhibition, rather than an actual sport reported on by the Associated Press.

In terms if the ‘Mainstream”, which sherdoggers have distanced themselves from completely in regards to their sports, John McCain, a strong contender for the next leader of the free world stated his observation after watching an MMA card: “to hit a man when he was down was un-American”, and called it "human cockfighting".

As recently as July of this year, McCain reiterated his intentions to ban the sport, should he get the opportunity, and if the 2008 presidential election polls have at merit this early in the sampling, his opportunity will come in exactly 24 months.

Despite one noted businessman’s rosy picture, painted as he promotes his product from his soapbox, the next big thing may turn out to be a big surprise for the lovers of the nouveau fight sport rules.

Younger people have always been less able to distinguish fads from historical trends, however, which is a fact, and one very much in evidence here.

boxing's problem, and a much larger problem for MMA, is that you cannot get 'mainstream' advertising bucks, which means you cannnot get prime time slots on major networks.

this is counter to baseball, who is overly concerned with showing their playoff/ WS games at prime time, so much to the extent that their games are ending at midnight EST, depriving an entire generation from learning to love the game.

[US Tomato Can]

Originally Posted by Sharkhunter

Don't show the other sherdoggers this (in the other forums) there would be mass suicides

One can only hope.