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Old 05-29-2007, 06:29 PM   #501 (permalink)
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Yeah by the second leg bend i mean your trying to drop under the bar after the push by bending your knees. I don't think we should include any jerks.

- only 1 knee bend allowed to start the pushpress
- you can use any stance, staggered or traditional
- after the push you must remain in the same stance you started with

anything else you can think of?




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Old 05-29-2007, 06:38 PM   #502 (permalink)
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Yeah by the second leg bend i mean your trying to drop under the bar after the push by bending your knees. I don't think we should include any jerks.

- only 1 knee bend allowed to start the pushpress
- you can use any stance, staggered or traditional
- after the push you must remain in the same stance you started with

anything else you can think of?




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But, if its staggered, then both legs arent completely straight right? I would say that for simplicity sake, we just make it a traditional push press, ending with both legs straight, and the bar in a locked out, overhead position.

No worries, ill check in a bit and get the info to you again.
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Sounds good to me, i was just leaving the option open because some people stagger their legs slightly for stability, i think KW advices that actually.
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:14 PM   #504 (permalink)
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Nice DL PR!! No need to be displeased.
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Push jerk uses the double knee bend. Notice as they complete the initial drive up, they immediately rebend at the knees to get under the bar. A lot of strongman competitiors prefer this to a split jerk, which takes a little longer to transition from rep to rep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xG0t-egtmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF29duzrjVg
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:07 PM   #506 (permalink)
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Congratulations on the DL personal record. Do you want to race to 500?
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Nice DL PR!! No need to be displeased.
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Push jerk uses the double knee bend. Notice as they complete the initial drive up, they immediately rebend at the knees to get under the bar. A lot of strongman competitiors prefer this to a split jerk, which takes a little longer to transition from rep to rep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xG0t-egtmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF29duzrjVg.
Ok, so the jerk used like in a c+j is legal? What say you standard and enright?

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5/30/07 – Push Day 1 + Grip

Warm-Up

• Bounding
• High-Knees
• Butt-Kickers
• Karaoke
• Lunges
• Plyo Push-Ups

Push Press

135 x 5
205 x 2

Push Jerk

205 x 2
225 x 2
235 x 1

OHS

135 x 6
185 x 3
205 x 1 (PR)

Farmers Walks

125 LBS x 110 FT
125 LBS x 110 FT

Grippers

Over Crushes, timed holds

Hammer Curls

50 x 6
55 x 5

Stretch

Notes – I am much better at push presses with staggered stance than traditional. The 225 x 2 was quick and explosive, and the 235 wasn’t TOO stressful. New PR for overhead squats with 205 x 1. That’s cool. Ill film a 225 x 1 for the church soon. I got frustrated with a lot of gym goers today and that almost never happens anymore. There was the trainer teaching a client how to squat. At first I was stoked because the guy had about 235 lbs on the bar, until I noticed that only ¼ squats were being taught. Why don’t they just teach them the correct way? A bunch of people kept walking behind me while im doing push jerks and overhead squats, even ducking under the bar to get wherever they were going. Didn’t they realize that a missed rep in that case will mean their death? Its like everybody took stupid pills today…
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So we should figure out these rules for final, push jerk ok or not? split jerk ok or not? and staggered stance allowed?

I don't think either jerk should be included, the push jerk i don't find to bad but again we are doing a push press. staggered i'm cool with, i get better balance with the staggered but a better push with the traditional stance.

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Old 05-30-2007, 05:00 PM   #510 (permalink)
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Yeah, i cant believe they dont see the inherent danger in some of the things they do. One day i will just drop the weight and see if i can get off with a justifiable homocide ruling

Apples to apples - Traditional push press (no jerks, staggered stance or double leg bend)
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