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Old 05-19-2008, 12:42 PM   #80411 (permalink)
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Of course it does, my Judo trainer has a very strong neck and I cant choke him even though my technique is right. Some people have strong necks and can resist the choke and if they can resist for longer than you can squeeze (which is usually the case) then you end up losing a sub and gassing yourself out.

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ASU was a sad loss, but I'm not going to knock Title IX. Yeah, some colleges are having to cut programs; it's bound to happen, but in the end, it's just going to concentrate the guys who REALLY want to wrestle into schools who can make money with their wrestling programs.

If some college's having to chop wrestling, or men's water polo, or some other worthwhile-but-lower-end sport from their program winds up putting just one more Mia Hamm or Jennie Finch or Gabrielle Reese on the U.S. Olympic team, then I'd consider it a win.
Those three wouldn't have trouble getting into a program. Just like AA, Title was necessary at one time, but now it does more harm then good. If you are talking about strict capatilsm, the women should have to suffer just as much as the men.

And what about Don Frye? What if he went somewhere else with a worse wrestling program and didn't end up being the MMA legend he is? That's ok because some field hockey team is alive and well at ASU? I'm not ok with that.
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Actually the original is by Edwin Birdsong. Daft Punk doesn't have many original samples.


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Actually the original is by Edwin Birdsong. Daft Punk doesn't have many original samples.


Yes but the song which Kayne West covered was written by Daft Punk.
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I'm gay for BJ Penn. And no, for fucks sake, a strong neck will do nothing for a properly sunk blood choke. It might help you pull your head down and prevent you from getting properly set, but once a good choke is set it doesn't matter what the fuck you do, the blood vessels are right under the skin. A Mundial champion knows how to get the choke right, and I gaurantee if Penn gets Sherks back he can choke him out.
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Those three wouldn't have trouble getting into a program. Just like AA, Title was necessary at one time, but now it does more harm then good. If you are talking about strict capatilsm, the women should have to suffer just as much as the men.

And what about Don Frye? What if he went somewhere else with a worse wrestling program and didn't end up being the MMA legend he is? That's ok because some field hockey team is alive and well at ASU? I'm not ok with that.
So Finch would have done fine playing ball at any D-I school, but Frye's wrestling wouldn't have matured if he'd gone elsewhere?
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I'm gay for BJ Penn. And no, for fucks sake, a strong neck will do nothing for a properly sunk blood choke. It might help you pull your head down and prevent you from getting properly set, but once a good choke is set it doesn't matter what the fuck you do, the blood vessels are right under the skin. A Mundial champion knows how to get the choke right, and I gaurantee if Penn gets Sherks back he can choke him out.
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Wrestling is a good sport, if schools are dropping manly combat sports in favor of effeminate team sports which are not even played professionally then its a sad day for mankind.
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Of course it does, my Judo trainer has a very strong neck and I cant choke him even though my technique is right. Some people have strong necks and can resist the choke and if they can resist for longer than you can squeeze (which is usually the case) then you end up losing a sub and gassing yourself out.

He could have just done curlz instead of squeezing his knee.
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