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Old 04-23-2008, 10:42 PM   #69341 (permalink)
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Really? I put the hydrolyzed whey because I thought I read in the other thread it tasted good. My reading comprehension is the fail.

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Yeah supposedly it has a horrible taste, but it's a better grade than isolate so yeah.
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Looks good man, from what I can remember.

Hydrolyzed whey though? I've never had it, but I heard it tasted like absolute shit. Wouldn't a whey isolate be better maybe?

I don't know, cause I've only had the latter, not the former. I'd hate to pay for 5 lbs of shit (taste wise, that is).
I think I'll sub in whey isolate ion exchange, or would microfiltrated be better?
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Total Cost: $46.00
Pounds of mixture: 5

Custom Mix Ingredients:
Ingredient % of Mix
Hydrolyzed Whey Protein High Grade 45%
Amylocel (Waxy Maize Starch) 45%
L-Glutamine Powder 5%
Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA's) 5%


This is what I'm thinking now, the WMS is supposed to be easier on the stomach. Yay or nay?
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Hydrolyzed Protein: Usually from whey, this is processed to break up the protein chains (of amino acids) into shorter chains. The shorter the chain, the more readily it can be absorbed by your body, making this the ideal post-workout protein. Warning: hydrolyzed protein is notorious for its bad taste.
Never tried it myself, though. A decent quality flavoring may hide it, but I can't say.

I'd lose the 5% glutamine and add more BCAAs.
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Yeah supposedly it has a horrible taste, but it's a better grade than isolate so yeah.
See below post

And it's from true protein.
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Never tried it myself, though. A decent quality flavoring may hide it, but I can't say.

I'd lose the 5% glutamine and add more BCAAs.
I put the glutamine in there because I read it's good for keeping muscle while losing weight. Although you know a shitload more than I do, but that's not saying much lol.
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I think I'll sub in whey isolate ion exchange, or would microfiltrated be better?
microfiltration is not better than ion exchange, but cold filtration is better than ion exchange.

From the protein thread:

WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE
No grades. Check the label of ingredients on the protein canister you want to buy. Under whey, does it list concentrate, isolate, hydrolyzed, or a combination of all three? Which does it list first? Almost without exception you will see concentrate, if you see the others at all. So in comparing these proteins, assuming that's all that's packaged, your only criteria should be cost and taste.

WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE (Best to Worst)
Cross Microfiltration Whey Isolate
Ion Exchange Whey Isolate
Cold Filtration Whey Isolate

HYDROLYZED PROTEIN
Grade is determined by lowest weight average molecular weight*. For example, Protein Factory has three grades of hydrolyzed whey: 1) Hydrolyzed 360, 2) Hydrolyzed 520, 3) Hydrolyzed 1400. The number indicates the average molecular weight of each protein molecule; the lower the number the shorter the chain, the shorter the chain the quicker your digestion, the more "anabolic" its effect.

CASEIN (Best to Worst)
Milk Protein Isolate
Membrane Micellar Casein
Calcium Casein
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Zop, do you have that backwards? The way I'm reading it is the opposite of what you said.
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Zop, do you have that backwards? The way I'm reading it is the opposite of what you said.
oh yes your right I had it backwards! sorry
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oh yes your right I had it backwards! sorry
Ok, no problem. You got me nervous for a second that I really needed some sleep lol.

Total Cost: $45.75
Pounds of mixture: 5
Total Cost: $45.75
Pounds of mixture: 5

Custom Mix Ingredients:
Ingredient % of Mix
Whey Protein Isolate Ion-Exch 45%
Amylocel (Waxy Maize Starch) 45%
L-Glutamine Powder 5%
Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA's) 5%
Vitamin & Mineral Mix - $0.65/lb

I think that's what I'm going to stick with. I really want to try the glutamine, so next time if I don't notice anything from it I'll add in more BCAAs.
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I put the glutamine in there because I read it's good for keeping muscle while losing weight. Although you know a shitload more than I do, but that's not saying much lol.
Glutamine is in most BCAAs I've seen, adding it separately would just be redundant.
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