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Old 04-16-2008, 02:52 PM   #66031 (permalink)
 
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There was a big thread in grappling forum a long time ago about this.. people were calling there matches fights, adn they felt it was justfiaible based on the above definition. In the end to please all the striking folks, they decided grappling matches would no longer be referred to as fights, but as 'epic world wars on the tatame'
What the hell does tatame mean?
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:53 PM   #66032 (permalink)
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It doesnt say anywhere in the rules that you cant say 'benoit yourself'.
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I've done a lot of wrestling and a bit of grappling and don't consider either one of them fighting. It's part of fighting, but not fighting. You could make the same arguement for boxing/MT/any other art that doesn't include a ground game, but since I suck at boxing, I'll leave that to the people that know what they're talking about.
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Spend five minutes on the ground with Zop and tell me grappling isn't fighting.

Assuming he isn't going for the bottom position that is.
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There was a big thread in grappling forum a long time ago about this.. people were calling there matches fights, adn they felt it was justfiaible based on the above definition. In the end to please all the striking folks, they decided grappling matches would no longer be referred to as fights, but as 'epic world wars on the tatame'
I try to stay out of this kind of arguement because by this defention all of the fights except 1 I witnessed growing up (save ones on tv) were just guys doing cardio and not really hurting each other.
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There was a big thread in grappling forum a long time ago about this.. people were calling there matches fights, adn they felt it was justfiaible based on the above definition. In the end to please all the striking folks, they decided grappling matches would no longer be referred to as fights, but as 'epic world wars on the tatame'
LOL. That sounds even tougher...
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Attacks in grappling aren't all submissions. You're never safe from reversals or escapes, since they all put you in precarious positions. Get reversed, and suddenly you're the one who's trying to defend submissions.
I realize this and I apologize if I haven't articulated my point well. I'm looking at it only from the stand point of inflicting damage. I'm not trying to argue about how "safe" one is, if it is or isn't fighting, etc. I mearly wanted to express why I feel an increased sense of urgency in a situation when the threat of being struck is present.
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