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Old 07-18-2008, 07:09 PM   #1161 (permalink)

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KK, how long have you been training?
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:31 AM   #1162 (permalink)
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I've been training off and on for what seems like forever, but I've been with Mike only for as long as this log has existed. And training with Mike was the difference between boy training and man training.
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:49 AM   #1163 (permalink)
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Friday - 7/18/08.

Liu believes you ain't lived until you've stood next to Floyd Mayweather Sr. as he sings and dances to Lady Marmalade...

6:50am - Began the morning with Marco Antonio Barrera's second most significant loss, the fight with Junior Jones. I found this footage quite useful, as I'd not seen a whole lot of Junior outside the loss to Morales. The one thing about Jones that sucks though is that he's known as "Junior Jones"...when he had a much better and more pimp name. His real name is Ivy Jones. "Poison" Ivy Jones...EXCELLENT. Warning, the sound and video are about 20 seconds off, but it's still worth a watch:

Jones/Barrera.

7:30am - 1.25 mile run.

10:30am - Gym Time.

Mike was there before me again, very rare.

10 minute stretch.

1 round ring-jacks.

2 rounds Shadowboxing.

4 rounds moderate sparring. I wanted to model my style more like Junior's above. So I got a bit lower and jabbed with all my reach, Diego got scolded about 30 seconds in for trying to get lower "Diego! He a'ready low...why you tryin ta get lowa dan 'im?", for not keeping his left hand higher to defend the jab, and for lack of head-movement. So I guess the tricky stance and long jab works well. I also hooked and uppercut more when he tried to press REALLY close. There was a moment where I knew had I been in a real fight, and put full power, I'd have likely gotten a KO. Diego came in low and slipped one way, ran right into an uppercut, and slipped the other way, ran right into the straight left while throwing his jab. The way the punches felt on my hands when they landed, I was thought "yeah, that could have really hurt someone." Punching between is getting to be a Hell of an Art form.

3 rounds speed-bag.

Conditioning:

Ab-machine circuit.

40 twist-ups.

10 Hindu push-ups.

15 ab roll-outs.

Gym Moments:

Wes and Lonnie were fuckin throwing BOMBS. They had a really good 6 round session. The highlight was when Lonnie had Wes on the ropes and Wes was bobbing and weaving very fast to avoid punches, at one point Lonnie just stopped and put his hands down and stood over Wes like "the fuck you doin'?" and Wes was still bobbing and weaving for a second. Wes knocked Lonnie down at one point, though, and both of them had bloodied mouths.

Apparently Wayne McCullough sent this Irish kid to our Gym. And by Irish I mean he's the most Irish person I've ever met in my whole life. Talks a lot like Micky from Snatch, has green gloves, doesn't know what the fuck 147lbs means (metric system). And somehow he and Sharif were talking and understanding each other. I think he's only a bit heavier than me though, so he might want some work.

Speaking of which I've resorted to friendly smack-talk. When Sharif came in Mike said we were talking about him (we were agreeing he's the best guy at the Gym), and I said "Yeah I was talkin' about how you scared to come early, 'cause you don't want none."

Zab was telling stories about Wes and Floyd Jr. He said when he first met Wes he was at Top Rank looking to spar some guy who was talking shit about him (didn't catch who), and Wes offered to spar in the "Shit I'll mufuckin' spar you!" kinda way. Zab said he was like "yo Son, who even are you? Man git ya lil Amacha ass outta hea!" But he sparred him anyway and took Wes out with the left uppercut.

Then he was talking about Floyd Jr., because apparently they've known each other from the Amateurs since they were like 6 years old, and been roommates. He said around the time Floyd Sr. got locked up, Floyd Jr. was all broken up about it because Floyd Sr. used to give him information on who he was Fighting before he fought. He said:

"Yeah man Floyd would be all "man I can't fight man, my Daddy locked up and he ain't called me or nothin...I can't fight like this man"...cryin like a lil bitch."

Funny part is Rafael Garcia Sr. sort of confirmed it, saying Floyd Jr. wasn't very confident when he was a lot younger and in the Amateurs.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:31 PM   #1164 (permalink)

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Some day you are going to have to write a book Liu. I guess with some of these stories it might have to be in the mold of Jose Canseco though. Better wait until your career is over and you dont gotta see these people every day
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:58 PM   #1165 (permalink)

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6:50am - Began the morning with Marco Antonio Barrera's second most significant loss, the fight with Junior Jones. I found this footage quite useful, as I'd not seen a whole lot of Junior outside the loss to Morales. The one thing about Jones that sucks though is that he's known as "Junior Jones"...when he had a much better and more pimp name. His real name is Ivy Jones. "Poison" Ivy Jones...EXCELLENT. Warning, the sound and video are about 20 seconds off, but it's still worth a watch:

Jones/Barrera.
Is it just me, Or is Jr Jones a replica of Pernell Whitaker? From his stance, to his jab, to the way he throws his right. Actually the way he carries himself looks similar to Mccallum also. I cant put my finger on it. Maybe its the jab. Theres something similar about how all three shoot their jab. and theres just something similar about their stances and how they carry their hands.

Also at the end of the video, when Barreras corner jumps in the ring, i coulda swore one of them threw something at Jones while his back was turned. LOL.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:17 PM   #1166 (permalink)

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I've been training off and on for what seems like forever, but I've been with Mike only for as long as this log has existed. And training with Mike was the difference between boy training and man training.
log started 7/18/07...you just passed a full year.

congrats and keep it up!
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:52 PM   #1167 (permalink)
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Is it just me, Or is Jr Jones a replica of Pernell Whitaker? From his stance, to his jab, to the way he throws his right. Actually the way he carries himself looks similar to Mccallum also. I cant put my finger on it. Maybe its the jab. Theres something similar about how all three shoot their jab. and theres just something similar about their stances and how they carry their hands.

Also at the end of the video, when Barreras corner jumps in the ring, i coulda swore one of them threw something at Jones while his back was turned. LOL.
Considering Sweet Pea had only been Boxing for 5 years when Jones began as a Pro, I would exactly call him a replica. Though there are some basic similarities between the two, I'd just call that sound Boxing.

And yeah, the fight result was actually a DQ for Jones on account of that.

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log started 7/18/07...you just passed a full year.
Yeah, I don't think even Mike realizes we been in the Gym a year now.
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Entry for Saturday 7/19/08.

Began the morning showing Diego the HL's contained here:

The Pressure Fighters:

Then it was onto handball.

The Charleston Heights Handball series has acquired a bit of an injury list. So far the reported cases are as follows:

- Pulled butt-cheek.
- Sprained achilles tendon.
- Bruised duodenum (from a fall Spank endured).
- 2 cases of road srape-itis.
- 2 cases of blue-ball ball smash on rebounds.

It's turning into a rough Sport. Next week should feature the addition of a new player. Mr. Cesar "El Niņo" Pino.
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Tuesday - 7/22/08.

Jandi boana...

6:50am - Began the morning with the encounter between the late Diego "Chico" Corrales, and the man who makes quitting fashionable, Acelino "Popo" Freitas. Sucks because Popo CAN fight, but much like Corrales his whole career was built on his ability to knock people out. So if in the course of the fight he figures out that he can't knock you out, and you CAN hurt him, he'll just quit, and the Brazilians just love him for it. See for yourself:

Corrales/Freitas:

7:30am - 2 mile run.

10:30am - Gym Time.

The Gym was crowded early today as it closed at 1pm for the Cotto/Margarito press conference, and no neither one of them was there while we were.

10 minute stretch.

1 round ring-jacks.

2 rounds Shadowboxing, Mike had me stay center ring and circle. He doesn't want me giving up center easily anymore it seems.

3 rounds Heavybag. Working on jab speed mostly.

4 rounds body-snatcher. Working on deceptive right hooks amid combos.

1 round over/under rope. Think I finally got proper rolling.

3 rounds double-end bag. Jab speed the main focus again, and ending combinations with a short jab.

2 rounds speed-bag racing Ishe. Every time I sped up he sped up on the other bag, pretty fun.

Conditioning:

Ab-machine circuit x 2.

40 twist-ups.

Gym Moments:

Ishe put in 11 rounds, 4 with Said, 4 with Lonnie, and 3 with Wes. Crazy stuff. At one point Ish threw a 4 punch combination all with his right hand. I think Wes knocked him down in the 10th. He's tough as Hell, though.

Crocodile (for those who don't know, he's an old school trainer who has worked with the likes of Ali, Tyson, and Judah) said he also sees I'm losing weight. Then he saw I use Castille soap (this was in the locker room), and said Ali used to use it. Told me a story of when Ali first showed it to him in 1982. Good stuff.

And lastly, according to Sharif he's coming at 10:30am tomorrow morning. It's within reason since the Gym is closing early and he only got half a workout today. So tomorrow I might actually FINALLY get my ass kicked by the best guy in the Gym.
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did Popo retire? i love watching him fight.

i still remember when he had a perfect KO%
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