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Old 01-19-2008, 11:13 AM   #61 (permalink)

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Your workouts look good. Though, I'm surprised you weren't warm enough for the 80kg after all the previous sets. Thoughts?

Also, just my own thing I guess, but I usually go about 5-10kg more on RDLs the Pulls. Just throwing that out there...
My knees are a bit bitchy since Smolov, I don't know the reason. Would you suggest increasing the RDL weight or lowering the pull weight? I could decrease the pull weight, because the pulls are not as fast as I feel they should be. I'm not yet comfortable with increasing the weight on RDLs, because I am not happy with my technique yet, when the weight gets heavier I use too much back and tend not to focus on the hamstring stretch.

Btw: No workouts since Wednesday due to work (out of town), will do todays workout tomorrow.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:18 PM   #62 (permalink)

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I just received Ironmind's Training Hall Footage of the Melbourne 1993 World Weightlifting Championships and the 1998 Bulgarian Training Footage - some pretty cool stuff, e.g. 175kg C&J at 60kg, 210kg Front Squat at 60kg, 270 or 280kg Back Squat for a triple at 91kg. However, the really impressive thing is how easy and fast these guys move the weights that I can still remotely comprehend. Obviously I have no idea what 270kg would feel like on my back, but I have deadlifted 180kg and to see some people essentially power snatch that kind of weight (and power clean over 200) is pretty awesome.

Edit: Some other stuff on the tape - 260kg Back Squat at 69kg, 245kg Front Squat at 77kg, 185kg Snatch at 84kg and 205kg C&J at 77. The amazing thing is that the Melbourne footage was shot within 2-5 days of the actual competition, so I do not think these guys are giving it their all (e.g. Naim Suleymanoglu 180kg Front Squat for a triple at 65kg 2 days before competition).
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:42 AM   #63 (permalink)

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Nah, I wouldn't decrease the pull weight just to make the RDLs heavier (relatively). I forget you're new to this so stick with the lighter weights for now.

I would say, just based off my own experience, that you could clean/snatch pull 80-130% of your max full lift. More than 130% and you tend to sacrifice speed. Actually, I usually only go as high as 130% when doing pulls off the blocks. I leave the 80%ish weights for recovery weeks and tapering weeks. Speaking of 80%, if they're at all similar in their tapering protocol, think about that in relation to what you see on the training hall tapes. Yowza! I just can't conceive of the weights these guys lift. I can comprehend deadlifting cause you're just standing up with it and can grind it out for as long as it takes. With a clean you gotta pull it with speed and get your while body under it. Crazy.
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20.01.2008 Wk 3/Day 4

Warm up

Hang Power Snatches
20*6
20*3
40*3

Snatches
50*2
52.5*2
55*1
60*1
55*1*2
60*1

Clean & Jerk
55*2
67.5*2
75*2
67.5*1
77.5*1
85*1
77.5*1
85*1

Front Squats
70*5
100*5*2
110*3*2

Snatch Shrugs
80*5*5

Stretch
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I just received Ironmind's Training Hall Footage of the Melbourne 1993 World Weightlifting Championships and the 1998 Bulgarian Training Footage - some pretty cool stuff, e.g. 175kg C&J at 60kg, 210kg Front Squat at 60kg, 270 or 280kg Back Squat for a triple at 91kg. However, the really impressive thing is how easy and fast these guys move the weights that I can still remotely comprehend. Obviously I have no idea what 270kg would feel like on my back, but I have deadlifted 180kg and to see some people essentially power snatch that kind of weight (and power clean over 200) is pretty awesome.

Edit: Some other stuff on the tape - 260kg Back Squat at 69kg, 245kg Front Squat at 77kg, 185kg Snatch at 84kg and 205kg C&J at 77. The amazing thing is that the Melbourne footage was shot within 2-5 days of the actual competition, so I do not think these guys are giving it their all (e.g. Naim Suleymanoglu 180kg Front Squat for a triple at 65kg 2 days before competition).
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:18 PM   #66 (permalink)

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EDIT, wrong link, corrected: http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...cts.asp?dept=3

Here's a discussion of what the best tapes are:

http://www.fortified-iron.com/forum/...howtopic=40989

The Melbourne tape is awesome in any case.
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Here are some teasers:

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20.01.2008 Recovery Workout

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Just watched the Melbourne preview. I'm surprised at how close together Pyrros keeps his feet on that power clean. Never noticed that before.
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