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Old 02-11-2007, 12:02 PM   #791 (permalink)
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Im very frustrated. Before the sepsis everything went so well. I felt quite good. Had appetite. Ate a lot and trained hard. This lasted for about 2-3 weeks.
Now I feel weak and deflated. My appetite just doesnt come back. I lose kilo after kilo because even if I do nothing my ****bolism is just freaking fast. It starts eating away my body right away. ITs not only that I cant really build something. ITs even impossible to maintain. If something like that happened every three months and in between I could train and eat well. But it just happens way to often. And out of 52 trainingweeks I can train at most 8-10 full on. I seriously think about stopping it all thogether. ITs not that I dont enjoy lifting anymore. I still just love it. But to maintain the strengt and muscle I have now I can just train from time to time. Im just not much stronger than I were if I didnt train at all.
Life is only necessarities at the moment. Nothing to enjoy. No food to enjoy, no training to enjoy. Only running to the toilette all night adn feeling sick. I would like to rip out my colon and stomp on it. This motherfucker ruins my whole life.
Monday in a week Im supposed to start working at the hospital. I have no fucking clue how to manage that in my current healthcondtition.
I would just like to hide in a corner and stay there.

- OHP 6x60kg [strict]+5[push]

- Some pullups

- Plyos for the legs like one legged jumps and height jumps.
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:25 PM   #792 (permalink)
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- Snatchgrip DL on plate 10x60/10x80/5x90/5x100/2x5x105 [my back still bugs me]

- Lunges

- seeing stars almost collapsing [fucking bloodloss - was dizzy and heart was pumping like mad]

- some weighted dips, front lever practice adn hadnstand practice


I will try to combine heavy compund stuff with some gymnastic stuff. Need to get my rings and get started there. LEarning skills makes more sense for me at the moment as they dont go away like strength and musclemass if you dont eat for a longer period. Lets see how that goes. Still my motivation is bad.
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:33 AM   #793 (permalink)
 
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Just out of curiosity have you ever tried marijuana to see if it improved your appetite? I have heard people using it for such uses. (Just so you dont get a crazy idea of me from some other posts, I have never used any recreational drugs....but I am open to alternative uses for some of those drugs for those in medical need of them)

Great jobon your training, drive, and perserverence!
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:01 AM   #794 (permalink)

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Don't give up man. Plus your twice as strong as I am. You dont want to let yourself go and get weak like me!
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:12 AM   #795 (permalink)
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Seems like I got a virus on top of all the other stuff. At least that means its gonna get better soon.
Have never tried THC. I have taken it (smoked it, ate it) in my teens as a partydrug.
Seems like quite an idea. Will ask a friend wether he can get some for me, I guess. Im a little afraid it will activate the CU even more. Several substances (like almost all painkillers) do that. On the other hand they even run studies about the influence of THC on the UC. So worth a try I guess.

@zerocrew: The problem is that Im not much stronger than I would be without any training. So...
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:27 AM   #796 (permalink)

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But at least your doing something. what else would you be doing? Knitting?
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Thats the reason why I keep on training. I love the training itself. Not only the results you get from it. I think the idea of focusing more on skilltraining now could work out.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:10 AM   #798 (permalink)
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Read this:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1454124

A bodybuilding article?! On sherdog S&P?! Teh Ban!

I have to admit something. I love reading articles about oldschool bodybuilding (also about oldschool strengthtraining). Why? Three reasons. 1. Those where the days when bodybuilding and strengthtraining werent sperated like they are today. 2. Those guys were pioneers. They didnt just simply copy. They had to find out by trial and error. 3. It reminds me of my own first years hitting the weights.

What?! You are only 22. This is ages ago.
When I did my weightlifting betwen 15 and 18 years old things were much differnet than they were now for me. I didnt have access to the internet. I also didnt read those musclemags (in fact I never heard of them). I didnt have a trainer. It was just me, later me and my friends, and this fucked up weightroom. And we wanted to be stronger, more muscular and ripped (in no particular order). We didnt know there was a differnce in training for reaching either one. We didnt know many exercises. So we had to develop some on our own. We had very limited equipment. We had not the slightest clue which role nutrition plays. Of course we didnt have access to any supplements.
On our quest to reach our goals we experimented with rep execution (like superslow or whipping). We did 30+ reps until the lactate was coming out of our ears. Adn we ate like mad not careing about wether we were getting our xxx grams of protein in (how could we? We didnt knwo about this "rule").
But we reached our goals. I just looked back at some old photos. And everyone who was part of the crew was ripped and muscular. Many other guys started working out at this age in gyms with the latest equipment and access to supplements and the latest trainingscience.
Why did I never get biased by those guys? Pretty simple. None of them even came close to the results we had. So why should I care what they were doing. We had our own system and it seemed to work much better than theirs.
Today everyone thinks he knows something about weightlifting. Everyone lifts weights or has done so. And most of them have taken supplemnts or still do (its not that big like in the U.S. but its coming up).
But I have yet to see a bunch of 16-18 year old guys that muscualr and lean we were those days.
Instead you see people with bad skin and bloated faces more and more. People drinking their shakes and consuming way too much creatin (many bloated faces are not from the juice but overdoing creatin - at least thats what I think).
We have one group in our WRC now which is like that. On top of that they come up with a new routine from mens health or whatever almost every week. They never stick to something (Well, except bench and curls). How can you measure progress if you never do the same exercise again?
So what does all that tell us? All science and all supplements are only the iceing. Maybe necessary if you have reached a certain level. But very few have reached this level so...
It all comes down to these:
Are you willing to take the pain to make the gain?
Are you in the weightroom not only physically but also mentally?
Are you a copy or a you an original?
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:30 AM   #799 (permalink)
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Read this:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1454124

A bodybuilding article?! On sherdog S&P?! Teh Ban!
I LOL'ed.

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We have one group in our WRC now which is like that. On top of that they come up with a new routine from mens health or whatever almost every week. They never stick to something (Well, except bench and curls). How can you measure progress if you never do the same exercise again?
So what does all that tell us? All science and all supplements are only the iceing. Maybe necessary if you have reached a certain level. But very few have reached this level so...
It all comes down to these:
Are you willing to take the pain to make the gain?
Are you in the weightroom not only physically but also mentally?
Are you a copy or a you an original?
This was a really good post overall but this bit really speaks to me, especially the bold bit. Ive just signed up to a new gyn, and it hasnt been that bad. Ive seen squats, deadlifts. But Ive seen only one guy with a log. How do you know if youve improved if you dont know what you did last week?
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:25 AM   #800 (permalink)
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A log makes a huge differnce for sure.

- BP 2x3x100kg

- Benchpulls


I couldnt do anymore. Im lethargic. Every day at arround 6 pm it starts. I have to go to toilette every 30 mins. At arround 10 pm it calms down to arround every hour. Stays like that the whole night until arround 8am and then I have to go to toilette every 2 hours. And its like that for almost 2 weeks now. Its like I stand besides myself. I cant concentrate. Im so tired.
I really cant tell how much this is getting on my nerves. All I want to do is sleep.
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