[graedy]

Seems like on 31st of july cool dudes from all over the world will set a PR to wish me luck - and this is a fucking cool thing. Wooohaaa!!!

Althought Im not in rant mode I will try (because at the moment I dont feel beaten to death tired so I can type for a longer while).

One of the paradigms from so called "succes coaches" is to surround yourself with successfull people in order to be succesfull. You read that over and over again. Some even go in more detail and pretty much tell you to get rid of "looser friends".
Well, have those fuckers ever heard of friendship? I mean, do they know what real friendship means? A friend is a friend no matter if he is a fat, unemployed, lazy couchpotatoe or a fitnessenthusiast who runs a milliondollar buisness.
So one might say that those guys just tell you what works.
And I tell you that a person who needs to listen to those coaches probably has such a weak character that he would really be kept down by his friends if they dont follow the same goals in life as he does. REad: He isnt strong enough to go his own route he needs people he can follow - new "friends".
What do I care what my friend does with his life? It's his life. I will do my own thing. The only reason to change something would be if he isnt happy with his life. And maybe I can help him to become happier. I dont have my friends just because they might be of some kind of help. Im there for them if they need me and they are there for me. They are my friends becasue I love them.
How fucking selfish is the understanding of friendship of those "trainers"?
And even if you put it all in the "success in life" perspective. Who the hell tells you what being succesfull in life means? I would say having very close friends from your childhood to your death makes you a very successfull person in this aspect. And yes, in my opinion living a healthy lifestyle is worth less than that. But its up to you to set priorities.
How bad of a trainer must one to be only be able to make you succesfull in one sector by making you less succesfull in the friendship sector?
Here is a much better idea: Write down a prioritielist and only sacrifice lower listings for higher ones. And only if that is really necessary.
Here is mine:
- Have close realtionships and a bunch of people I can count on (friends, familiy, girlfriend)
- Be healthy
- Be able to do sports
- Have a job I like ( I wanna become a doctor)
- Be wealthy ( have a enough money to have a car, a house, good food and be able to travel)

MAybe I missed some things on the list as its not well though out. But here is an example: If I had the choice I would rather do the job I like than the job which is better paid.

And btw. if you think your friends are holding you back from being the person you want to be you are just weak in character and search for excuses.
Rant over. (I have forgotten half of it since yesterday, but whatever...)

[Zerocrew1984]

i'll be your friend....

im going to do some "normal" PR's(squat etc) on the 31st but since you seem to be a pull up monkey and i royally suck at these , this will be my number one goal...my max right now is 2 pullups....what do you want me to get by the 31st?

[graedy]

5 reps is a doable goal and you cross the "for reps" border with it. Like you can do pull ups for reps then.
And btw. here is another example: I would choose the better paid job over hte job I like more if my best friend would need money for e.g. a sugery to save his life. Friends is higher than "job I like" so this will be "sacrificed" for friends. And I would 5 times set my Porsche in fire (given I had one) if this would make me happy. Because being happy is good for your health

[Lusst]

Graedy,

I'm going to make it a point to someday meet you in person. S&P Reunion in ze fashaland, anyone?

- Your Knubbel

[graedy]

Originally Posted by Lusst

Graedy,

I'm going to make it a point to someday meet you in person. S&P Reunion in ze fashaland, anyone?

- Your Knubbel

HAving you arround for a couple of days would probably kill me. I would laugh myself to death. You really seem to have the exact humor I have. I cant count the numerous times I loled from one of your "kindergarden, ass and poo" type of humor jokes you make.

So, anyone of the regulars is welcome to knock on my door and I will let him in (of course only after he has performed some weird feat of strength he is known for so I can approve its really him).

[takeahnase]

I agree with you in principle, but there are many situations were friendship breaks down because of opposing interests without one party explicitly ditching the other party. If, for whatever reason, I am interested in choosing a certain way of living and a good friend isn't, it is likely that our lifestyle will diverge to the point that we will only have infrequent contact.

E.g. if my best friend drinks alot and I want to live a healthy lifestyle it is unlikely that the relationship can be continued as before. In particular, while it may be the case that I go out with my friend from time to time in order to uphold the friendship, it is unlikely that he is willing to get up early in order to hit the gym with me. (So infact it might even be argued that he is ditching me.)

Being friends with somebody is not an abstract relation that exists independently of how they behave. I don't easily call people friends, because whenever I do, I am willing to sacrifice a lot for that party. Nonetheless I have experienced situations in which I was willing to let the friendship die, because I was the only one investing in it.

Finally, you should care about what your friend does with his life, precisely because he is your friend. Of course that doesn't mean that you should impose your values on him.

[graedy]

My best friend used to be a lazy, fat video watching guy for years. And although I liked to do a lot of sports, had a girlfriend, was on a differnet school (at the same time that I jumped one class he had to repeat the same class and later changed schools), and liked to go out partying from time to time we are still best friends. And he is still the person I have spent most time in my life with. We have the same humor and we can just hang out with each other. We even were roommates and would still be if I hadnt to move back to my parents because of the UC.
Some years ago he told me that he was unhappy with his current life and wnats to loose some weight and get more active. So I helped him to achieve those goals. Although this meant that then he wasnt available at all times to hang out with me.
Today he does weighttraining and plays in a bballteam and Im doomed to sit at home and pretty much the only social activity I can do now is watch DVDs with other people. Guess who was here to watch die hard 4.0 with me yesterday? My best friend. Another very good friend studies that far away that he only comes to town about once a month for the weekend. Of course he wants to see all his friends and go to aprtys with them here. But anytime he is here he comes to my place and we hang out with each other. We phon at least once a week. The list could go on. All the people I know live completelly differnet lifes than I do for mayn years now. They are healthy and some have already finished university. The poeple I call close friends are people I know for over the half of my life. And they are all still there and cant wait for me to be able to go out again and live my life.

Of course you are right in a way. People change. And sometimes they chnage in completelly opposite directions. But the lifes of me and my best friend have changed drastically and he is still like a brother.

[takeahnase]

How the hell could you see Die Hard 4.0 on DVD? Your friend must be very influencial

[graedy]

Originally Posted by takeahnase

How the hell could you see Die Hard 4.0 on DVD? Your friend must be very influencial

Like I said before: My younger brother is a computernerd

[bacon]

My best friend has forsaken me for a woman that later burned him like I told him she would. I threatened to beat him to death when I found out he was hooked on drugs. I've driven 6 hours one-way to visit him in jail...several times. I've helped him move 2 dozen times. We've fought each other in a Denny's parking lot.

Some people have called him a loser, but not to MY face. He's still my best friend and anyone that calls him a loser in front of me better be ready to brawl. I helped him through his hard times, and he helped me through mine. Now we're both doing pretty damn good for ourselves.

I've only got 5 or 6 close friends, and I won't ever give up on any of them.