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Old 02-02-2008, 12:21 AM   #1 (permalink)

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ForeverFiending (Boxing, Muay Thai, MMA)

Tamil turned me on to this and I think it's a great idea! This log is for ME primarily, although I hope others find some sort of benefit from it... due to my current life situation(s) I greatly regret that I will no longer be training and/or conditioning as often as I have been. However, my plan is to keep going forward despite my lack of time to invest. So, I will simply have to be more efficient and maybe this log will help...

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25 yrs.
mother of two (noted because it has an impact on the body)
150 lbs. walk around
current estimated body fat is 18% via callipers X2
140 lbs. competition (completely hydrated) estimated via two multi Ch. female fighters
RHR 58 bpm
Started working out early 2005
Started training late 2006
No prior history of sports competiton (except maybe two or three Jr. High basketball games!)
No interest in any other sport aside from fighting and hockey (because my son plays)

Sport: MMA

Style: Strong Muay Thai, strong Boxing, poor ground game, decent cardio, very powerful striking... lots of drive

Favorite Things: 1. Thai pads and/or focus mitts held by an experienced heavy weight, 2. Sparring of all genders, weight classes, and styles 3. Very heavy bag work 4. Training in general!

GOALS:

WEIGHT~ I would like to walk around at 145 lbs.
I would like to fight at 135 lbs. and feel that I could get there because I'de be cut as hell and it's a very nice weight class.

CONDITIONING~ Future goals will be different, but for at least the next three months, I will be happy to maintain where I am at and hope to increase my cardio/strength.

Main goals are to increase/maintain cardio via 1 hr. Spin classes. Strength with weights both free and machines, all except legs which are helped by spin (trainers do not want me using weights for my legs). I hope to increase muscle mass in my forearms for blocking purposes. I also hope to increase muscle mass in my abdominals for better protection against body shots... basically anything that helps my game, but because I want a lower weight, I don't want access muscle. I would like to get my RHR to the mid 50's. All kinds of other excercises utilized as well, but for now...

BOXING~ faster and cleaner footwork. Right body hook needs some help. Better head movement. Participate in Kickboxing exhibitions this year.

MUAY THAI~ leg checks need to be MUCH faster. Defense in clinch. Hips more square (get out of KB mentality)

GRAPPLING~ Refresh memory on basic submissions. Develope a strong take down defense. Good escape technique. Learn the basics well. Compete in grappling tourney this year (promoter will not allow me to fight MMA until I have competed in some grappling tournies)

MUAY THAI PADS~ I want to be able to complete six, six minute rounds with 30 second rest (like they do in Thailand) I currently am able to do four, four minute rounds... long ways to go!

SPARRING~ Block/slip more punches. Throw more punches to the body once opponent is on defense. No hesitation on countering. Keep hips more square. Double-up on kicks. Set up kicks with kicks. More controlled breathing to prevent fatigue. NO turning when the heat is on! (it's been a while, but it's the worst thing to do!) Spar at least weekly.

BAG WORK~ I want to be able to do ten 3 minute rounds with 30 sec. rest on 100 lb. thai bags.

I would like to incorporate more ab exercises (can never get enough!) and more defensive drills into my training.

I will be recieving personal training for Muay Thai, BJJ, and Boxing 1-2 a week. Open mat and/or group MMA once a week. Strength/cardio at the gym 1-3 a week. And am considering hiring a sports nutritionist to help me lose some damn weight without compomising my training.

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Old 02-02-2008, 12:26 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Speed bag

skip rope

stretching

focus mitts

thai and body kicks on slammer pads

TOTAL TIME: 1 hr 45 min.

...... and then they freaking closed the gym on me!!!! arrrgghhh!!!

needed a few solid rounds of bag work to finish the night... but I am WICKED sick right now, so I will not do my planned workout for tomorrow... as a matter a fact I won't be training and/or conditioning at all until I kick this nasty bug!
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No offense to your trainer, but I suggest squats, 5 x5 , then 10 or so jumping squats. This will increase power very rapidly.
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Glad to see a log here . When you get the chance, take a look through the training faq's:

Strength & Power: S&P FAQ - Please Read
Conditioning: The New F A Q (Including Interesting Links)
Dieting/Supplement: --->ATTN: The NEW OFFICIAL D&S FAQ<---

Right off the bat, I'd recommend trying your hand at heavy free weights. It'll give you the strong core you're looking for, and since it's difficult for women to look obscenely huge from heavy lifting, you don't have to worry about packing on too much muscle . Supplementing heavy free weights and maintaining a clean diet will most certainly make you even more of a formidable force to reckon with. Damn I wish we lived in proximity...

So welcome, I hope this helps.
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:02 AM   #5 (permalink)

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No offense to your trainer, but I suggest squats, 5 x5 , then 10 or so jumping squats. This will increase power very rapidly.
Hm good eye, I didn't even see that. I don't quite understand your trainers' logic. Are they concerned that lifting will slow your legs down?

Link for 5x5 program (which is what I'm currently following): http://www.eclipsegym.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57. My legs are a lot stronger, and my left leg is a lot quicker (right leg, eh...need to work on that hip rotation lol).
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No offense to your trainer, but I suggest squats, 5 x5 , then 10 or so jumping squats. This will increase power very rapidly.
I do wall squats, jump squats, lunges, run stairs, etc. and that is all fine, but they don't want me doing any heavy weights with my legs. One of my coaches even told me that spin would bulk my legs too much, but I think she's confused. My legs are already quite thick, but I have great flexability and can kick quite high (that's the concern, that leg kick speed and/or height will be effected by bulkier legs). So, the rule is that aside from cycling I don't have any resistance for the legs aside from my own body weight.
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Glad to see a log here . When you get the chance, take a look through the training faq's:

Strength & Power: S&P FAQ - Please Read
Conditioning: The New F A Q (Including Interesting Links)
Dieting/Supplement: --->ATTN: The NEW OFFICIAL D&S FAQ<---

Right off the bat, I'd recommend trying your hand at heavy free weights. It'll give you the strong core you're looking for, and since it's difficult for women to look obscenely huge from heavy lifting, you don't have to worry about packing on too much muscle . Supplementing heavy free weights and maintaining a clean diet will most certainly make you even more of a formidable force to reckon with. Damn I wish we lived in proximity...

So welcome, I hope this helps.
I've done a lot of free weights for the upper body usually on the balance ball, and would probably like to keep that up as opposed to the machines.. makes more sense. I have one hour to do my weights, what do you recomend that I focus on for that hour?

lol... I know!!! I WISH I could just hop on down and see you in the gym! I have connections in OH though... so maybe some day
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Hacked all night, sick as hell, so no bag work or spin today

the day will be spent studying Phsyics!!! grrrr......

Maybe some meditation or something because lack of activity is frustrating...
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Sorry to hear you're still sick. Try some ginger tea, it helps clear me up a lot faster. Simmer freshly chopped ginger root in a pot or kettle for about 20 minutes and drink. Use a little bit of honey if you need to sweeten it, but it's better if you don't as a medicinal purpose.

Spin bulks your legs too much?? No offense to your coach. I used to have really thick legs, too, and lifting heavy--especially squats--helped out with that, as well as adding more power and explosiveness (and especially if you occasionally do sprinting intervals and the plyometrics you've mentioned doing). I think you're right, she's confused, lol...

I don't know any benefits to lifting on medicine balls, not to say there aren't any though. What exactly is your routine, and with what weights? I would imagine doing any weights on medicine balls actually takes away from what your body could otherwise benefit from. If you're injured, than I can see the reason...

In the meantime, I recommend bench, squats, deadlifts, and bent-over rows (BORs). A lot of guys here would say you can do your lifting within an hour, but I personally like taking my time...although I'm gonna start lifting under an hour and see how that fares for me. The 5x5 link I provided shows how to set up the routine, but the gist of it is:

THE BILL STARR 5x5

Monday (Perform them in this order)

1) Bench Press

2) Squats

3) Dynamic rows

Wednesday (Perform them in this order)

1) Military Press

2) Deadlifts

3) Squats

4) Pull-ups

Friday (Perform them in this order)

1) Bench Press

2) Squat

3) Dynamic Rows


Read Eclipse Gym's 5x5 thoroughly (since you're sick and have the time ). Take a look through the S&P forum as well. And if you coach still says that weight training for your legs will make it too big/heavy to utilize, please kindly direct her to the front page of this site.

Hope you feel better soon.

EDIT: All this being said, I only started a few months back on weightlifting, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Hopefully others with more experience (such as Finn) will chime in with recommendations and correct anything I said wrong...
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