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10-08-2008, 07:34 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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2008-10-06 Monday 1 hour of judo
Had pains in my knee so took it safe and rested a week extra from judo.
Tonights training was fucking rough, much larger crowd and I wasnt prepared, handt slept good, long hectic day in school and completely missed the eating part, the only thing I have had was a bigmac and some fries. So this training fucked me up tonight.
Very hard warmup, lots of weird new drills, started with a few variations on lying in a large circle and running around the circle and doing weard shit like throwing yourself over the lying people to do a pushup, hit pretty hard. Then a lot of pulling excersics like lying on your back and pulling on a belt over the floor, then a few rounds of running wiht a partner on your back and doing squats. Warmup was for about 30-40 mins and hard, then we did newaza. I was completely fucked from the warmup and was starting to feel dizzy as shit, I first went against a smaller brownbelt and then a girl, I tried to take it pretty easy and just use tech but I was feeling crappier and crappier. Then I went against a large strong brownbelt, and after having him in a triangle that I couldnt finnish since I was to fucking exhausted, then he just run over me since I didnt have the gas to do fucking dick.
After newaza was over they went on with some standing throws with a high pace, I was feeling dizzy and sick as fuck and thanked for a good practice and bowed out early. Never a good feeling but I had to lay down for 2 hours for my body to function right. It was a good stinging leason that right now in my current condition I dont get away with fucking with my sleep and food if I am going to train, I got away with that earlier when I trained 4-6 sessions a week and had trained continuisly for a few years, not in this shape though.
Good training anyway, good to be working hard and the knee seemed to work even though it felt a bit cranky at the start.
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10-08-2008, 07:47 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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2008-10-08 Wednesday 1.5 hour of judo
Judo-rugby was the warmup, I was a bit worried about the knee here since its in that kind of things you fuck such a thing up randomly but it held out and felt really good altough it makes a lot of squeky noises....
Then we did some drill where we was holding the gi and yanking upwards/invards, it seemed like some form of setup move. That followed up with two throws from that setup.
After that Newaza, first I went with a little girl, I pulled guard and played really easy loose game. I caught her in a triangle and she seemed confused if that move was allowed in judo. I called over the instructor and showed him how I do the triangle (I know pulling on the head is illegal in judo so I dont do that), and while I was showing it I didnt have it on hard in any way or really locked in but somewhere there the little girl got dizzy. So yeah a bit embarasing to almost choke out a little girl... ... ...
Anyways then I went against this old rugged blackbelt, I think he right now is the main instructor there, he is not huge but fit. We had some fairly good grappling first then he started to own me with some weird judo magic, first he turtled up a lot and he had some moves from their, then what he fucked me up royally with was his pins from death. Its something I expect but as I was gassing out my pin escapes was not nearly sufficient tonight. That should be put high on the agenda to drill when I get the chance. It also fucks me up to have someone that dont work for the submission at all just works the pin, really fucks my game up...
Then we did a bit of randori, I went with a nice brownbelt that I know likes to teach, it was the first randori I got to do and im curious to how my knee hold up to it generally. It was a mixed bit of him showing me stuff and some sparring. Very light so not to good test of the knee but it felt fine at this pace and intensity today.
Then session ended with a ligth conditioning circuit, from inverted rows on your belt to running the matts, to pushups to sittups, a minute or so of each.
Compared to the last horrible session this went better and felt more rewarding. Still eating wasnt to good (but better) and my sleep is out of rhytm. It can get much better even on my current lousy conditioning level.
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10-08-2008, 07:53 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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Shouldnt I see my new posts...? fkn sherdog
Edit: This post juggling is fucking fucking weird.
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10-13-2008, 01:39 PM
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Venturing into country not for old men.
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Sounds like Judo is going pretty good huh? Cool.
BTW, Barut started a thread in the main S & P forum wanting to know if you got laid by your girlfriend and her friend.
I'm kinda curious to find out the results also...
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10-13-2008, 02:39 PM
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You're a damned voyeur, Bubbles.
Odd that this thread should pop back up to the top of the list today, though: I was just watching Krellik's grappling highlights the other night.
I still think you need to put a warning on the ones where some idiot/kid/unfortunate doesn't manage to get the "tap before you snap" bit down right, but they're all good work, Krellik.
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10-13-2008, 03:45 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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bhahaha I just saw that Bubbles.
Yeah the judo is treating me good, I start to get the grappling "demon" pulling me in. I spent a lot of free time this weekend checking some groundstuff against the turtle, and then I had downloaded "the gokyo with Neil Adams" and just spent a lot of time looking through it, not trying to learn all the names and exact throws, but just to get a feel for what kind of things that could be thrown at me.
I dont have a real "feel" for the game yet, the general movements and how the timing should work and all that but I think I start to "sense" it atleast.
Right now I am trying to get my head around what I want to add in more in my training, its not something that I have the work capacity for right now but that I want to do atleast over the next few months. Originally the mma interest in me had dictated that I wanted to get into boxing, but right now I am kind of feeling that it is grappling that I want to focus on right now. I have judo, boxing, greco, and a mma club with bjj, thai and mma, all like 5 minutes away from me on a bike, all is affordable, etc so training is in theory wide open with possibilities. So the question is should I perhaps add in some Greco or should I add in some bjj.
The logical answer might be bjj but im not sure what im feeling at the moment.
I actually looked through those old highlights myself again, kind of funny because I was at a very special place at my life when I did most of those, just been injured, right before I got together with my girl, etc. But it also actually awakened a bit of the "old" me a bit which fired me up a bit and made me hungrier for training. Funny how things from special contexts can work like that.
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10-13-2008, 04:20 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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2008-10-13 Monday, 1.5 hour of Judo.
This was a freaking great night of Judo. There was a few people from another cities judo club visiting and all of a sudden the place was crawling with grizzly old blackbelts and all the big browns and blacks was there etc, lots of people and a bit "special" vibe on the training.
Warmup started with some running warmup and then some "playwarmup", the belt strips went out again and first it was a newaza game where you should pin anyone else crawling around on the math and then you got there belt strip. Then some gripfigth game to standing get the beltstrip on the back of the other and finaly the beltstrips on the ground and trying to manipulate your partner to step on it. All went good and was fun, I feel strong in just wrestling for position, the gripfighting feel quite natural and so on.
Then the big boys paired up and the small ones paired up, then it was two circles, so it was me the whitebelt with a ring of browns and blacks. It was basicly going around the circle throwing everyone and being thrown yourself. I basicly did ouchigari and seionagi, on several I didnt get deep enough with the hip, it felt natural when I learned the throw, not so good today.
Then we went through some "advanced" throw that was tricky for me, one guy had basicly one arm dangling apareantly baiting to grip a leg, then you did some spin move to get the arms crosed and then did a hip toss from there. After trying it out myself the brownbelt I was paired up with did it to me, and in being thrown it felt fucked up to haver your arms crossed and traped like that, I propably did something stupid midthrow because of that because I landed on my tailbone and it wasnt like superdamaging pain but it was enough to make my hip feel funny and kind of making me walk a bit funny.
Then randori, my first "serious" randori yet. I first did it with a bluebelt, he had a gi that it said "landscape team" so I guess he competes atleast.. It actually felt good against him, got a few ouchigaris and some lifting the leg by the gi and drive through thingies. Then with a greenbelt girl, went good there to, I obviously tried not to use strength, tricky in a sport you dont really master the fundamentals of yet... Same things worked for me there with ouchigaris and driving through takedowns. She got me with some falling back thingie though.
Then with a large brownbelt, this was abit of a stale game, he explained that I shouldnt have so stiff arms and I tried to adjust. A lot of wrestling around for position for throws and stuff, gripfighting, grecolike wrestling around stuff, he tried to throw me and I ended up on top. Not sure how easy he went on me though since I cant really read the game.
This randori was really fun stuff, I really want to go against some good blackbelts just to get owned a bit (preferably with out getting crippled), just so I can see my bad habbits more clearly. As the bluebelt explained I leaned in a bit to much, someone that was better would fuck me up, naturally he is right...
Then a few other throws went through, it was all competition varieties of throws I didnt really know the basics of so I kind of got lost here but atleast got some throwing practise in.
Training ended with some pair relaxation drill where you kind of shock the arms and legs of the lying partner, nice for my aching tailbone if nothing else.
Definitively best judotraining so far.
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10-13-2008, 06:03 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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By the way Bubbles are there any particular judo instructionals that you would recomend? I do realise that there are a fountain of knowledge at the club my brain just works well with having the possibility to sit home and break things down before going to training.
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10-15-2008, 05:15 PM
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Gimli son of Cisco
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2008-10-15 Wednesday 1.5 hour Judo
Playwarmup, nice and easy, some judo variations of tag, some light conditioning drills.
Then we spent a lot of time drilling a throw and naturally I didnt catch the name, you turned around and put your leg outside the leg anyhow, lot of setup work on it. Then finally a variation where you kind of started moving the guy to you and then you spun into it, that actually felt really good (unlike the first variations on it that felt very awkward to me...)
Then some lining up and throwing everybody on the large soft mat (what was the name of that kind of drill?)
After that first some take turn throwing eachother semi-randori. I went with a nice lighter brownbelt and it was good rewarding training, I got bored on trying to do the same 2-3 things all the time so I tried for a firemans carry, unfortunately I kind of had a bit to much speed in it and a bit to bad balance so I ended up throwing him on his head. He got a bit dizzy but he was cool with it, apareantly I fucked up the firemans and it turned out to be a real wicked variation of another throw...
Then it was full randori, I went with some taller bluebelt, I have never seen the dude before, he didnt speak Swedish and I think he was russian or a Pole or something. Anyhow he went hard as fuck, very crouched over, if we would have been groundfighting I would have thought him to be a spaz or something.. Anyhow he was very aggresive with the gripping, really looked like he was trying his competition A-game or something. Very very herky jerky stuff. I didnt want to get into a dogfight and end up injuring my knee on my second real randori so I just tried to take it cool and fight for grips and positions and see if I could see an opening.
He tried for a lot of agresive hipthrows that ended with me over him and he turtling up. I also managed to snap him down with some semi-double thingie.
Then we drilled some variation of the firemanscarry that the trainer had hit during randori and that he wanted us to do. Basicly it was your partner sitting back heavy and then you grabed the other leg and fliped him in a slight different direction. I did not really "get" it...
Then training ended up on a "play" note, we made a circle of the belt, removed the gi and did king of the hill Sumo. After watching a few guys go I went in and was solid king of the hill, the only guy threatening me was the trainer who is also large. I bowed out after a few turns. Then after watching the others go the big trainer had been king of the hill for a few rounds I thought he would get a rematch so I steped in, after quite the struggle he threw me and naturally my knee got entangled and it hurt. I had to limp it of a bit and it still hurts a bit, lets see how it is tomorow...
After the training was over I got the oportunity to test out the anaconda choke and the brabo that I have been looking on a lot over the weekend in instructionals, the anaconda felt fucking great, the brabo didnt feel as natural but I got it fucking tight atleast. I also tried the peruvian necktie, didnt figure it out at all, I need to check over the details of it a bit more, felt awkward.
All in all good fun training.
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10-15-2008, 05:59 PM
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Venturing into country not for old men.
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Do you wear a knee brace or anything?
As far as terminology goes, it's actually easier to figure out than it seems. Goshi means it's a hip throw, gari is a foot sweep, etc.
Sounds like the aggressive blue belt was going a little hard, but then again, maybe he had a tournament coming up or something.
It's tricky figuring out how hard to go in randori sometimes. My general rule is, I'll go as hard as the guy is going against me. There's exceptions of course.
For example, if it's a new guy who just doesn't know any better, I'll first try to slow him down with gripping. If he's still going ballistic, I'll give him a little air time, maybe land on him a little hard...but nothing malicious. Just a the harder you push the harder you fall kind of thing...
Once he's settled down, I essentially let him try his stuff on me, and I'll take the fall if it's reasonabley executed.
If he get's goofy and aggressive again, I'll toss him again as a reminder.
I tell new TENSE people: "I'm not gonna throw you with your arms locked out like that, but you're not gonna throw me either. We can play that game if you want, but what's the point..."
I'll also explain that I'm not that good, so they can relax, I'm not going to bury them into the mat or anything.
So then we'll do some relaxed skipping around and dancing together (ha ha), without trying to throw, just practicing a loose grip and fluid hips...
BTW, I think when you go against black belts, you're going to find it far more enjoyable than going against the lower belts. There's quite a leap from brown to black.
Still, don't be surprised if you manage to throw one of 'em. Judo is awesome, but it's not magic either. 
I've seen world class black belts occasionally tripped up by novice players. It happens. So GO FOR IT!
Also, you should be more worried about injuries from the lower belts than the black belts. A black belt will throw you hard, no doubt, but you'll land in a way that is safe.
Meh, I've went and gone on a healthy rant....
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