[datadog]

28Jan06 Edit: Thought I'd post a mini update at the top of this. High body weight at holidays was 283. I hit 272 yesterday so the cardio and diet are going well. Knees felt first pain in a while on Wednesday, still a little tender today. Hopefully it was the standing squats I had been doing on off days, those have been removed from the program for now. Deadlift is flying up 10 pounds a week. 305 for set felt the same as 225 had the first time I did it. Of my training partners I'm the only one able to use an overhead grip for all three sets (figure I'm getting some extra hand strength out of it). Diet note: Wife decided she needed to drop weight so we started eating better. Been buying tons at Trader Joes, their stir fry bags take 15 minutes to cook, are good for me and even taste good. So this will work, it's not that I hate dieting I just hate being bothered or inconvienced for it.
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I'm 33, stand 6'3" and weighed in this evening at 279lbs. I have a very long torso which hides a lot of the weight, people usually guess me for 250lbs. I work in network security and am finishing my masters in network security in April. This is a fairly sedentary job which mixed with my studying and working on projects for classes leads to muscle atrophy and a case of the "done-laps" in that my gut done-laps over my belt.

Goals:
Primary - Get upper body to a reasonable level of strength.
Secondary - Once knees have healed enough begin training process for MMA classes.
Tertiary - Lose my gut and achieve a general better level of fitness.

Caveat: I hurt my knees in the spring doing squats and thought I'd let them heal. The knees didn't heal and I finally made my way to a knee specialist who said I have buildup behind the knees (hence why they will pop loudly) and weak cartilage (hence why they hurt). So before I can work my legs hard I have to do a couple of months of rehab exercises. I've been told not to do any squats, lunges, or wall sits. I've mostly listened to that advice though I will be doing wide-stance un-weighted squats just to keep the muscles awake.

I'm not looking to fight in competitions or to show up being pounded on a KOTC DVD (Ever notice how many big guys show up and get slapped around?). I just love watching MMA fights and want to get into good enough shape to start training so that I can better understand and appreciate the sport (the training is also impossible till April when I finish off my master's degree, so the training will be my reward). The current plan is to train submission grappling and BJJ. Depending on how patient my wife will be I may be able to squeeze in Mau Thai.

I've been lifting twice a week for a few years and have gotten past the weak stages on most exercises. But now I want to crank it up and get to putting real weight up.

[datadog]

8 Week Program - Began Oct 17th.
I found an article in muscle and fitness which detailed getting your bench up from x weight to a higher weight. I talked my lifting partners into trying it and we all qualified in the range from 235-255 max bench (yeah I know, go ahead and laugh). So the program is designed to take a 235lbs bencher to getting up 275lbs. I tried to do the 275lbs on qualifying but couldn't get it moving, so I wasn't able to do the alternate plan which is to get to 315lbs. The magazine set the Monday and Thursday routine and left Tuesday, Friday and Saturday to be user to set. So I added my own items in then.

Mondays: Chest - Heavy
Tuesdays: Upper Back, Triceps, Abs & Squats (low weight for me!)
Thursday: Chest - Not to Fail. Lower Back & Grip [New for week 4]
Friday: Shoulders, Biceps, Abs again.

The physical terrorist gave me a regiment of leg stretches and leg lifts to do twice a day so I'll do these until the end of the 8 week program.

I also added Captains of Crush grip trainer work on MWF. I just do these in the office so my hands can recover before lifting.


After Christmas I'll evaluate our benches to see where we stand and if we can quickly get us all to 300lbs benches. [I know it's just vanity, but I want to shove 315…].

2006 Plan
For 2006 the current plan is to switch to a Push/Pull/Squat program. I hope my knees recover enough by then to make the squat day worth my while.

My wife is getting me the Bas Rutten MMA Workout for Christmas. I heard this will kick my ass, which is probably what I need. Here's hoping my knees take it!

[datadog]

Thought I might drop a word on this. After reading through Sherdog I decided to start taking Muscle Milk and Cytromax.

In 4 weeks I've seen a noticeable jump in mass, from 272lbs up to 280lbs. While this wasn't really my goal (I was hoping to get towards 250lbs) at least it looks like the mass gain is muscle. I know it sounds like a lot and I'm guessing some of that is the Cytromax keeping my properly hydrated during the workout. I can definitely see my chest getting bigger and my arms have made it up to 18". In fact I've finally hit the dreaded point of not being able to find a dress shirt at the mall department stores and had to head into the Big and Tall store.

I don't eat great, but its better than I used to

Breakfast usually is bad but I take some whey protein with it. Lunch is generally a frozen meal, I try to make sure these is enough protein in them and to keep the fat under horrid level. I take muscle milk with whey protein before workout and cytromax during and after. Normal dinner and a Muscle milk before sleep.

[datadog]

Monday

I'll edit this post till after the 8 week program ends since it's cool to see the improvement in one look.

Week 8 Report:
Damn I must have gotten weak. I did set 2, but couldn't budge set 3 and ended up using it as a negative set. Very disapointing... Not sure what the #@%@ ids going on. Frankly, fairly disapointed by the whole 8-week program.

Chest Day: [Week 1-2 Goal 6 Reps, Week 3-4 Goal 5 Reps, Weeks 5-6 Goal 4 Reps, Weeks 7-8 Goal 3 Reps]

Bench Press:
Datadog:
Week 1: 6x205, 6x215, 6x225 - Felt Easy
Week 2: 6x210, 6x220, 6x230 + 3 reps negatives at 275
Week 3: 5x220, 5x230, 5x240
Week 4: 5x230, 5x240, 0x250 (5 assisted). + 5 negatives at 265
Week 5: 4x235, 4x240, 2x255 [oops, miscounted on set 2... doh!]
Week 6: 4x220, 4x240, 2x260 (2 assisted) + 5 negatives at 285
Week 7: 3x230 barbell, 3x250 machine, 3x270 machine, 1x290 machine ***
*** Both lifting partners out, so no spotter...
Week 8: 3x235, 3x250, 0x270 (3x270 as negatives)
CaveMan: (Lifting Partner)
Week 1: 6x195, 6x205, 5x215 (1 assisted)
Week 2: 6x195, 6x205, 6x215 + 5 reps negatives at 255
Week 3: 5x205, 5x215, 5x225
Week 4: 5x220, 5x230, 3x240 (2 assisted). + 5 negatives at 260
Week 5: 4x230, 4x235, 3x250 [oops, also miscounted on set 2]
Week 6: 4x220, 4x240, 2x260 (2 assisted) + 5 negatives at 285
Week 7: Out
Week 8: 3x235, 3x255, 1x275
30dollars: (Lifting Partner)
Week 1: 6x185, 6x195, 2x205 (4 assisted)
Week 2: 6x185, 6x195, 3x205 + 5 reps negatives at 240
Week 3: 5x190, 5x200, 5x210
Week 4: 5x200, 5x210, 3x220 (2 assisted). + 5 negatives at 240
Week 5: 4x210, 4x220, 2x230
Week 6: 4x210, 4x225, 2x240 (2 assisted) + 5 negatives at 265
Week 7: Out on business

Inclined DB Press: [We had not done this, so trying to find our weights]
Datadog:
Week 1: 6x55, 6x60, 6x65
Week 2: 6x60, 6x65, 6x70
Week 3: 5x65, 5x70, 5x75
Week 4: 5x70, 5x75, 5x80
Week 5: 4x75, 4x80, 4x85
Week 6: 4x80, 4x85, 4x90
Week 7: 12x55 @ 3 reps [no spotter, we usually take the weight from each other]
Week 8: 10x55, 10x55, 10x55
Caveman:
Week 1: 6x55, 6x60, 6x65
Week 2: 6x60, 6x65, 6x70
Week 3: 5x65, 5x70, 5x75
Week 4: 5x70, 5x75, 5x80
Week 5: 4x75, 4x80, 4x80 [0x85]
Week 6: 4x80, 4x85, 4x90
Week 7: Out
Week 8: 10x55, 10x55, 10x55
30dollars:
Week 1: 6x55, 6x60, 6x65
Week 2: 6x60, 6x65, 6x70
Week 3: 5x65, 5x70, 5x75
Week 4: 5x70, 5x75, 5x80
Week 5: 4x75, 4x80, 4x85
Week 6: 4x80, 4x85, 4x90
Week 7: Out on business
Weighted Dips: [Week 1 - The dip belt hadn't arrived yet…]
Datadog:
Week 1: 6x0, 6x0, 6x0
Week 2: 6x0, 6x10, 6x10
Week 3: 5x0, 5x10, 0x25
Week 4: 5x10, 5x10, 5x15
Week 5: 4x15, 4x25, 3x35 [OMG, finally!!!]
Week 6: 4x25, 4x35, 3x45 [Not bad considering I weigh 280... fat man moving!]
Week 7: 3x25, 3x35, 2x45
Week 7: 3x25, 3x35, 0x50 - was spent by the end
Caveman:
Week 1: 6x0, 6x0, 6x0
Week 2: 6x0, 6x10, 6x25
Week 3: 5x25, 5x35, 5x40
Week 4: 5x40, 5x50, 5x60
Week 5: 4x50, 4x60, 4x70
Week 6: 4x60, 4x70, 2x80
Week 7: Out
Week 8: 6x0, 6x35, 2x50
30dollars:
Week 1: 6x0, 6x0, 6x0
Week 2: 6x0, 4x10, 4x10
Week 3: 5x0, 5x10, 5x25
Week 4: 5x15, 5x25, 3x35
Week 5: 4x25, 4x35, 3x45
Week 6: 4x35, 4x45, 2x55
Week 7: Out on Business


Week 8: Tried some standing military presses, but nothing worth noting the weight on (just testing after all)

[SmashiusClay]

Originally Posted by datadog

My wife is getting me the Bas Rutten MMA Workout for Christmas. I heard this will kick my ass, which is probably what I need. Here's hoping my knees take it!

This workout will kick your ass, if you have knee problems i would avoid the all around fighting workout as sprawls can damage your knees if you're not careful, I'd also be worried about the jumping squats and jmuping lunges on the all around workout (which by the way isa workout that proves that Bas does not like the people who buy his products)

if your going to get a punch bag, or already have one, for the workout make sure you use handwraps and bag gloves correctly to avoid hand and wrist injuries. Take it from me ripping up the tendons in the back of your hand sucks.

[datadog]

Tuesday Workouts - 8 Week Program (Ends Dec 13)

I'll edit this post till after the 8 week program ends since it's cool to see the improvement in one look.

Week 7 Report:
Damn my back was stiff all day from that infernal power wheel I did monday. But things got better and doing the weight made it feel better. Squat was okay, scary that it felt like weight when it's still barely 100 lbs. Good lord does screwing up your knees suck...

Upper Back, Triceps, Abs & "Squat" Day:

First Week:
The gym where we lift replaced equipment on the second week and I'm a sucker for new machines. So we worked the first week, but it doesn't equate since we switched machines.

Notes on machines: The machines are pulley systems, and they have a "position setting". Basically the position setting controls when extra force will be added to the machine. Set 1 puts the force in the midpart, set 2 supposedly puts it at the end (set 2 seems to be a rest) and set 3 puts it at the start. In testing last week one of my training partners hung his 225 pound bodyweight off a 95-pound bicep curl. So the numbers on the machines have to be considered not equal with real weight (but they seem to work what their aim at, so who really cares?)

Super Set One:
1-2-3 Machine Diverging Seated Row (Inside Grip)
Datadog:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x210, 8x210
Week 3: 8x200, 8x210, 8x200
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 5: 8x330, 8x330, 8x330
Week 6: 8x230, 8x230, 8x230 [dropped it back down for form and extension]
Week 7: 8x250, 8x250, 8x250
Caveman:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x190, 8x190
Week 3: 8x200, 8x210, 5x200
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 5: 8x230, 8x230, 8x230
Week 6: Family Emergency
Week 7: Out
30dollars:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x210, 8x210
Week 3: 8x210, 8x210, 8x210
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 5: 8x330, 8x330, 6x330
Week 6: 8x230, 8x230, 8x230
Week 7: Out on business
1-2-3 Machine Diverging Lat Pulldown (Outer Grip)
Datadog:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x250, 8x210
Week 3: 8x210, 8x210, 8x210
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 5: 8x250, 8x250, 8x250
Week 6: 8x255, 8x255, 8x255
Week 7: 8x260, 8x260, 8x260 [max on machine is 265]
Caveman:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x190, 8x190
Week 3: 8x200, 8x200, 4x200
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
30dollars:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x250, 8x210
Week 3: 8x210, 8x210, 8x210
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 6: 8x250, 8x250, 8x250

Super Set Two:
1-2-3 Machine Seated Pushdown
Datadog:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x210, 8x210
Week 3: 8x210, 8x210, 8x210
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 5: 8x250, 8x250, 0x250/0x250/4x230 (250 is the machine max)
Week 6: 8x230, 8x230, 8x230 [I weigh 280, hung without moving the 230 on set 3... Silly machines]
Week 7: 8x235, 8x235, 8x235
Caveman:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x190, 8x190
Week 3: 8x200, 8x210, 8x200
Week 4: 8x210, 8x210, 4x210
Week 5: 8x220, 8x220, 6x220
30dollars:
Week 2: 8x190, 8x210, 8x210
Week 3: 8x210, 8x210, 8x210
Week 4: 8x215, 8x215, 8x215
Week 5: 8x250, 8x250, 7x230 (250 is the machine max)
Week 6: 8x230, 8x230, 8x230
1-2-3 Machine Arm Extension
Datadog:
Week 2: 8x110, 8x110, 8x110
Week 3: 8x110, 8x110, 8x110
Week 4: 8x115, 8x115, 8x115
Week 5: 8x120, 8x125, 8x130
Week 6: 8x130, 8x130, 8x130
Week 7: Decided the machine sucks (hurts my elbow), so did pushdowns with stack... 3x8 @ 215
Caveman:
Week 2: 8x90, 8x90, 8x90
Week 3: 8x100, 8x100, 4x100
Week 4: 8x110, 8x110, 6x110
Week 5: 8x120, 8x120, 8x120
30dollars:
Week 2: 8x110, 8x110, 8x110
Week 3: 8x110, 8x110, 8x110
Week 4: 8x115, 8x115, 8x115
Week 5: 8x125, 8x130, 8x130
Week 6: 8x135, 8x135, 8x135

Super Set Three:
1-2-3 Machine Abdominal Crunch
Datadog:
Week 2: 12x150, 12x150, 12x150
Week 3: 12x150, 12x150, 12x150
Week 4: 12x155, 12x155, 12x155
Week 5: 12x170, 12x170, 12x170
Week 6: 12x200, 12x200, 12x200
Week 7: 12x210, 12x210, 12x210
Caveman:
Week 2: 12x150, 12x150, 12x150
Week 3: 12x150, 12x150, 12x150
Week 4: ? ? ?
Week 5: 12x160, 12x160, 12x160
30dollars:
Week 2: 12x150, 12x150, 12x150
Week 3: 12x150, 12x150, 12x150
Week 4: 12x155, 12x155, 12x160
Week 5: 12x170, 12x170, 12x170
Week 6: 12x190, 12x200, 12x200

Super set with various abdominal exercises


Squat:
Datadog:
Week 2: n/a
Week 3: n/a
Week 4: 6 reps with bar for 3 sets. Very wide stance (Rehab)
Week 5: 6xbar, 6xbar, 6x65, 6x65 [still rehab, taking it slow]
Week 6: 8x65, 8x75, 8x85, 8x95
Week 7: 8x75, 8x85, 8x95, 8x105 [decided to try +10 a week till knees ache]
30dollars:
Week 2: 6x185, 6x225
Week 3: 6x225, 6x275
Week 4: 6x225, 6x275, 6x295
Week 5: 6x225, 6x275, 6x315
Week 6: 6x225, 6x275, 6x325
Caveman:
Week 5: 6x225, 6x225

[datadog]

Originally Posted by SmashiusClay

This workout will kick your ass, if you have knee problems i would avoid the all around fighting workout as sprawls can damage your knees if you're not careful, I'd also be worried about the jumping squats and jmuping lunges on the all around workout (which by the way isa workout that proves that Bas does not like the people who buy his products)

Cool, thanks for the advice! I'm going to have to take it easy on some of the leg stuff (especially while I'm weighing so damn much). Jumping lunges sounds like Bas owns stock in sport medicine clinics. lol.

But Urban's website sings the workout's praises so I'll do what I can and improvise where necessary.

[datadog]

Thursday

I'll edit this post till after the 8 week program ends since it's cool to see the improvement in one look.

Week 6 Update:
Caveman had to do something else so just 30dollars and I this week. 30 has some trouble keeping heavy dumbells under control so we did alternate training. Did bench machine, pec dec machine, inclined barbell press, weighted dips then straight-keg deads.
Feeling burned out today, I think I was up too late finishing a project for my Master's and am wiped out.

Chest Day: [Week 1-2 Goal 6 Reps, Week 3-4 Goal 5 Reps, Weeks 5-6 Goal 4 Reps, Weeks 7-8 Goal 3 Reps]

DB Bench Press:

All of us at the same level: (Till I can pull away from them, lol)
Week 1: 6x60, 6x65, 6x70
Week 2: 6x65, 6x70, 6x75
Week 3: 5x70, 5x75, 5x80
Week 4: 5x75, 5x80, 5x85
Week 5: 4x80, 4x85, 4x90

Datadog:
Week 7: Flat Barbell Bench: 3x230, 3x250, 0x270
Caveman:
Week 7: Flat Barbell Bench: 3x230, 3x250, 1x270

Inclined DB Press: [We had not done this, so trying to find our weights]
All of us at the same level:
Week 1: 6x55, 6x60, 6x65
Week 2: 6x60, 6x65, 6x70
Week 3: 5x65, 5x70, 5x75
Week 4: 5x70, 5x75, 5x80
Week 5: 4x75, 4x80, 4x85
Week 7: On Smith machine: 3x185, 3x205, 1x225 (both of us)

Weighted Dips: [Week 1 - The dip belt hadn't arrived yet…]
Datadog: (weighs 280 - per week 4)
Week 1: 6x0, 6x0, 6x0
Week 2: 6x0, 6x0, 6x10
Week 3: 5x0, 5x10, 0x25
Week 4: 5x10, 5x10, 5x15
Week 5: 4x15, 0x25, 3x25 [OMG those hurt]
week 7: 3x25, 1x35, 3x25
Caveman: (weighs 225 per week 4)
Week 1: 6x0, 6x0, 6x0
Week 2: 6x0, 6x10, 6x25
Week 3: 5x25, 5x35, 5x40
Week 4: 5x40, 5x50, 5x60
Week 5: 5x50, 5x60, 5x70
Week 7: 3x65, 2x75, 1x75
30dollars: (weighs 230 per week 4)
Week 1: 6x0, 6x0, 6x0
Week 2: 6x0, 4x10, 4x25
Week 3: 5x10, 5x15, 5x25
Week 4: 5x25, 5x25, 2/3x35
Week 5: 5x25, 5x35, 5x45
Straight-Leg Deadlifts (These seem easier on my knees that regular deads)
Datadog:
Week 3: 1x185, 1x225, 1x225
Week 4: 2x185, 2x225, 2x225 (275 was too much on my knees)
Week 5 Note: Moving to Friday
Week 7: 2x225, 2x235, 2x245 [forgot about the move to friday... lol]
Caveman:
Week 3: 1x185, 1x225, 1x225
Week 4: 2x185, 2x225, 2x245
Week 5 Note: Moving to Friday
Week 7: 2x225, 2x235, 2x245 [forgot about the move to friday... lol]
30dollars:
Week 3: 1x185, 1x225, 1x275
Week 4: 2x185, 2x225, 2x275
Week 5 Note: Moving to Friday

Farmers Walk: (30dollars complained that his grip is too weak… wrong thing to say while we're still in the gym). Too bad the gym is too tight of quarters to load up barbells for these…
All of us:
Week 4: 1 lap around the gym using 100lbs dumbbells
Week 5: 2 laps around the gym @ 100lbs dumbells
Week 7: 1 lap... Caveman completed this time so we were happy

[datadog]

Friday
I'll edit this post till after the 8 week program ends since it's cool to see the improvement in one look.

Shoulder/Trap, Biceps and Abs Day

Super Set One:
DB Shoulder Shrug:
Datadog:
Week 1: 6x70, 6x85, 6x100
Week 2: 6x85, 6x90, 6x100
Week 3: 6x90, 6x95, 6x100
Week 4: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100
Week 5: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100 -- Saturday
Week 6: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100
Week 7: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100
Caveman:
Week 1: 6x70, 6x85, 6x100
Week 2: 6x85, 6x90, 6x95
Week 3: n/a
Week 4: 8x90, 8x90, 8x90
30dollars:
Week 1: 6x70, 6x85, 6x100
Week 2: 6x85, 6x90, 6x100
Week 3: 6x90, 6x95, 6x100
Week 4: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100

1-2-3 Machine Military Press:
Datadog:
Week 1: 6x90, 6x90, 6x90
Week 2: 6x90, 6x95, 6x100
Week 3: 6x110, 6x110, 6x110
Week 4: 8x115, 8x115, 8x115
Week 6: 6x130, 6x130, 6x130
Week 7: 6x135, 6x135, 6x135
Caveman:
Week 1: 6x90, 6x90, 6x90
Week 2: 6x100, 6x135, 6x145 [Barbell since a squatter had the machine]
Week 3: n/a
Week 4: 8x115, 8x115, 8x115
30dollars:
Week 1: 6x90, 6x90, 6x90
Week 2: 6x90, 6x95, 6x100
Week 3: 6x110, 6x110, 6x110
Week 4: 8x115, 8x115, 8x115




Super Set Two:
1-2-3 Bicep Curl Machine:
Datadog:
Week 1: 6x70, 6x85, 6x100
Week 2: 6x85, 6x90, 6x100
Week 3: 6x90, 6x95, 6x100
Week 4: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100
Week 5: 8x105, 8x105, 8x105
Week 7: 8x110, 8x110, 0x110 [ouch!]
Caveman:
Week 1: 8x90, 8x80, 8x70
Week 2: 8x90, 8x80, 8x70
Week 3: n/a
Week 4: 8x80, 8x80, 8x75
30dollars:
Week 1: 6x70, 6x85, 6x100
Week 2: 6x85, 6x90, 6x100
Week 3: 6x90, 6x95, 6x100
Week 4: 8x100, 8x100, 8x100

DB Hammer Curl:
Datadog:
Week 1: 8x30, 8x30, 5x35
Week 2: 8x30, 8x30, 8x35
Week 3: 8x35, 8x35, 8x35
Week 4: 8x35, 8x35, 8x35
Week 5: 8x35, 8x35, 8x35
Week 6: 8x40, 8x40, 8x35
Week 7: 8x40, 8x35, 8x35
Caveman:
Week 1: 8x30, 6x30, 7x35
Week 2: 6x30, 4x30, 8x30
Week 3: n/a
Week 4: 8x35, 6x30, 4x30
30dollars:
Week 1: 8x30, 8x30, 5x35
Week 2: 8x30, 8x30, 8x35
Week 3: 8x35, 8x35, 6x35
Week 4: 8x35, 8x35, 7x35


Super Set Three:
1-2-3 Machine Abdominal Crunch
Datadog:
Week 4: 12x170, 12x170, 12x170
Week 5: 12x190, 12x190, 12x190
Week 6: 12x205, 12x205, 12x205
Week 7: 12x210, 12x210, 12x210
Caveman:
Week 4: 12x170, 12x170, 12x170
30dollars:
Week 4: 12x170, 12x170, 12x170

Super set with various abdominal exercises

[datadog]

Week 5 of 8 just ended on the bench program. This week was a bit odd with the holidays tossing timing in disarray. So Thursday was done on Wednesday, and Friday done on Saturday.

The free weights is going how I thought it would. The barbell bench is going right along, I tend to miss on the last set but the lower reps let me go up weight anyways.

The dumbells are a bit interesting in that my old hand pain is present but it isn't enough to stop me. The dumbells at my gym have a "bubble" handle [sorry, don't know the correct term] the handle middles are up to a 2 1/2 inch diameter while the edges are standard. I used to not be able to use them due to shooting pain in my right hand. Now I can feel the pain start but it doesn't manifest itself. Odd

The jury is still out on 1-2-3 machines. I added machine work so my lifting partners could lift safely when we don't meet together. Some of them feel to be working but my god are the weights off. A 225-pounder hung off the 90 pound setting on the 3 position and the bar didn't move! Perhaps a tad off?