[DEVILsSON]

20$ games are not representative of real poker....it's like penny antes...or better yet just for chips...try playing with 50-100 buy i n bankroll for whatever u choose to play at a decent enough level....start playing 3-6 oe 5-10 limit or 1-2 NL(100-200 buy in)....it will become progressively more realistic.....save money to play in these games..,and be prepared for a wake up..

[Anarkix]

Originally Posted by DEVILsSON

20$ games are not representative of real poker....it's like penny antes...or better yet just for chips...try playing with 50-100 buy i n bankroll for whatever u choose to play at a decent enough level....start playing 3-6 oe 5-10 limit or 1-2 NL(100-200 buy in)....it will become progressively more realistic.....save money to play in these games..,and be prepared for a wake up..

Heh, one of my better poker playing friends went to the nearest casino (for his first time). He buys in for 200 in a 1/2 game. Couple of hands in, he has AK suited with 4 players to the flop (was raised but not by him), he hits both, raises, gets reraised, one guy rereraises over the top and he moves all in. The reraiser folds and the rereraiser calls and turns over pocket threes. The flop was like A K 9, and the guy with 3's goes "only cause I got $333 in front of me" and he rivers a 3.

Real poker is what you make of it, lol. If anything, I've learned this.

[DEVILsSON]

these are the hands where emotional control and bankroll come into play....i'd had a run of such shit for days....which eventually broke me...that's why game selection, bankroll management, etc...are so huge....1 hand is nothing...i wouldnt blink twice about this shit...i'd rebuy and then bust that asshole...nothing like drunk idiots...it does suck however when such people hit and run...that does piss me off...o well...

[Saith]

Originally Posted by Anarkix

why not just wait to grow out of it like everyone else (on this forum) did.

Because taking advice is ALWAYS easier than learning the hard way.

[DEVILsSON]

indeed...smart person learns from his mistakes and never repeats them while a very smart person/genius/person with common sense learns of other peoples mistakes and doesnt make them....

I personally had a hard time learning from other peoples mistakes but i tried/try hard.

[Anarkix]

Weekend update:

Began planning home equipment
Finished half of v-diet (8 lbs off as of today, 2 days after I quit. I'd say it's all fat lost)
Figured out what I'm going to do about my life/money situation, so I'll hopefully be able to begin training at Ultimate Fitness before May

Oh and did about 2 hours of cardio (basketball) and a ton of pushups/situps yesterday (felt like justifying some brownies my friends' mom made)

[Anarkix]

Killer arm day today. Eating again is so great. Even mixed it up with some muscle milk, and I'm coming back on beta alanine. Should make the home ross-training pretty easy to get in to.

My class went to the machine room today (we do like 5 times a year). You really appreciate the lat-pulldown and weighted sit-up machines when you never have access to them. I'll post the numbers later, strength was def up. <3 carbs.

[oxcart]

Originally Posted by Anarkix

Killer arm day today. Eating again is so great. Even mixed it up with some muscle milk, and I'm coming back on beta alanine. Should make the home ross-training pretty easy to get in to.

What is your training plan like now that the diet is over?

My class went to the machine room today (we do like 5 times a year). You really appreciate the lat-pulldown and weighted sit-up machines when you never have access to them. I'll post the numbers later, strength was def up. <3 carbs.

Ummm, or you find a bar:

hanging leg raises >>> weighted situp machine
chins >>> lat-pulldowns

But I don't think this is news to you...

[Anarkix]

Originally Posted by oxcart

What is your training plan like now that the diet is over?



Ummm, or you find a bar:

hanging leg raises >>> weighted situp machine
chins >>> lat-pulldowns

But I don't think this is news to you...

Gonna be 6x3. Oh and reading my quote I said muscle milk, I meant muscle juice, lol. Like 700 more cals per serving.

And yeah I'm aware chins are beastly, but the lat pulldown machine just FEELS like you can really target your lats when you do it right.

And I never really did leg raises, was always more of a weighted crunch/situp guy. Hmm I'll look into it.

Oh and LOG:
Couldn't keep track of the weight used (due to the lack of labeling on my schools' machines), but it felt heavy in a good way on most lifts.

Lat Pulldowns
Bench Press (supersetted 6x3, ramping weight)

Overhead Tricep Extension - 50 lbs
Weighted Situps (100 lbs?) (supersetted 6x3)

Hammer Curls (30lbs 2 sets, 35 lbs 2 sets, 40 lbs 2 sets [to failure])
DB Shrugs - 50 lbs 15x3

Yesterday was pretty short, but oh well. I'm loving eating again, and I now have more time to sleep at night, so I started back the ZMA, and the beta-alanine should be kicking in shortly (2g twice a day, is this adequate?).

Also, I decided that I'm going to do light cardio (15 or 20 mins of ross like BW conditioning) on days I lift and balls-to-the-walls cardio/conditioning (the hard stuff off rosstraining) days I don't (probably 2 off days a week). I'll make that sandbag today or tomorrow, and I'm trying to find a sledge and tire, already know where I'm going to half bury it . Oh, and I'll be drinking less (cons finally outweight the pros for what I like vs. where I want to be).

[joshetc]

Originally Posted by Anarkix

Gonna be 6x3. Oh and reading my quote I said muscle milk, I meant muscle juice, lol. Like 700 more cals per serving.

And yeah I'm aware chins are beastly, but the lat pulldown machine just FEELS like you can really target your lats when you do it right.

That is because chins have more efficient mechanics for your lats. If you want to target your lats better with a straight bar, do wide grip pull-ups (palms facing outward). There is no arguement to be had that a lat pulldown machine even slightly compares. Your entire core is recruited much more when you have to stabilize your entire body, while the ROM is essentially the same.