[enright3060]

My lifting routine right now isn't really set, but once I start training at UF I'm sure my endurance and cardio will reach the point that I can go back to powerlifting routines. It will probably be 3x3 when that point comes. I have to wait to enroll until I get my license (test is Apr 7).

Now, I realize I'm 17, but I've spent plenty of time in the gym since I was a kid, and I've spent even more time reading online. This is why I feel I'm qualified to decide what I supplement with. That being said, I currently supplement with Animal Pak, Lipo 6x (summer cut), ZMA (like the dreams), NO-Xplode (quitting this during cut), and Beta Alanine (just beastly).

You are 17. As everyone said, your time would be better spent eating eggs, beef and drinking milk (if you need whey, you can buy a 10 pound bag for $70 or so). There is no reason for skinny 17 year old to cut body fat. Find a lifting program that priorities squats, deadlifts and presses. And work hard at increasing your MA skill set. This link also may be helpful - http://www.rosstraining.com/infiniteintensity.html

Best of luck

[Anarkix]

I'm fairly certain I mentioned in my log that I was pretty well educated about the subject of nutrition and bodybuilding.

That said, I DO NOT WANT TO BE A HEAVYWEIGHT. I EVENTUALLY WANT TO FIGHT AT 185. THIS MEANS I WILL BE APPROXIMATELY ANDERSON SILVA'S SIZE (HE IS NOT HUGE). DON'T TELL ME TO EAT WHOLE FOODS WHEN I AM SHREDDING BF FOR SUMMER. YOUNGER PEOPLE DO THIS TO BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO THE OPPOSITE SEX. I'M SURE ALL THE DUDES WHO READ THIS REMEMBER WANTING TO BE RETARDEDLY SHREDDED AT ONE POINT IN THEIR LIVES. I'VE BULKED BEFORE, AND I'VE CUT BEFORE. BELIEVE ME. (sorry caps)

If you wanna see a 6"4' skinny guy, look at me 1.5 years ago:



Since then, I have literally QUADRUPLED my bench. I had trouble putting up the bar, now I can get 205 fairly easily (could prob hit 225 or more if I bought a shirt, but I'm not really about maxing anymore). I can deadlift and squat over 315. I did Rippetoe's for over 6 months.

Also, this is the first time I've ever tried changing my diet up, other than when I initially went into BBing and began eating these whole foods you guys mention every day. My fridge was (is) full of chicken, turkey, beef, whole milk, eggs and fruit. Unfortunately, I can't go back to eating like that for 4 weeks.

Also, I'll be doing a 3x3 powerlifting routine throughout this diet. This is to gain STRENGTH, not MASS.

Everyone's goals are different. Shouldn't be that hard to respect that.

Anyways, thanks for the warm welcome Sherdog!

edit: BTW I fucking love eating. Aside from fighting drinking and partying (woo HS), eating is really my favorite thing to do. Everyone seems to think I want to gain mass. I don't! Thanks though.

[joshetc]

You can't get "shredded" without muscle, and you can't get muscle without a good diet. All they are saying, is even if they disagree with your goals, is your plan is terrible. Even body builders know they have to eat a lot to gain muscle....

You cut AFTER you gain muscle, if that is your goal. If you go on VD while lifting, your body is just going to catabolize your muscles and you'll lose both good weight (muscle) and bad weight (fat, which you don't have much to actually lose)

[vince89]

Anderson Silva is huge. He cuts from 205 at least. Also theres nothing attractive about being "Shredded" when you have no muscle.

Aside from fighting drinking and partying (woo HS), eating is really my favorite thing to do.

You look like a pussy, when you spar with a Pro your delusions will come to an end.

Go back to BB.com no one cares about your bodyfat goals here mate.

[enright3060]

WTF - bulking, cutting - you are 17 years old kid. Train hard and eat healthy.

If you think moving form 12% bf to 9% body fat is one thing that is going to get you laid this summer, you don't understand women. Why hinder your training goals in order to lose 7 pounds or so.....

You also may want to start training and learning the proper skill set before you determine what is the "right" weight to fight at.....

Anyway - take a look at the FAQ in both S&P and D&S.

[Anarkix]

Originally Posted by joshetc

You can't get "shredded" without muscle, and you can't get muscle without a good diet. All they are saying, is even if they disagree with your goals, is your plan is terrible. Even body builders know they have to eat a lot to gain muscle....

I'm sorry, perhaps you'd like a different pic. I really think it's ironic that you, Mr. 158 lbs, is giving me advice on gaining muscle. I'm not small by any means. I'm gonna assume you're extremely short, say 5'6" (66 inches), against my 6"4' (76 inches). This means that to have about the same amount of mass as me, you'd need to weigh about 87% of as much as I do. In order to do that, you'd have to weigh 168 lbs. You're literally 10 lbs of muscle behind where you need to be to even be on MY level. And I'm just a skinny bitch, right?

Originally Posted by vince89

Anderson Silva is huge. He cuts from 205 at least. Also theres nothing attractive about being "Shredded" when you have no muscle.

OK, now I'm really thinking I should upload some more pics. The reason short guys look so massive is because they don't need to cram as much muscle onto their tiny frames to look huge. If I was to stand next to Anderson Silva, we'd look pretty comparative as far as mass goes.

It's really unfortunate the only training log section Sherdog has is in the Strength & Power section. Everyone seems to assume that S&P means "Retard Mass for Everyone." Now, I realize I may be overstepping bounds here, but I really don't give a damn, because your disrespect of me was uncalled for at the least. YOU on the other hand are probably overweight, looking to call average sized (shit I'm greater than average size) people skinny to feel more normal yourself. And the best part of the whole thing is, when I was doing 5x5, I was literally squatting nearly DOUBLE what you're doing. My first set was 2 plates, more than 40 pounds over your last! Thanks for making that so easy to find in your training log!

And to anyone looking to hate in this thread, just move on. If I haven't made it fairly obvious that I not only know what I'm talking about but have a decent strength training background as well by now, I don't know what will.

[fearfactory]

[quote=Anarkix;22000447]MY level[quote]

Do you have any advices for me? I want to be on your level.

[enright3060]

This is going to end well...

Edit: You can do whatever you want. I hope you work hard at it. You can, however, work hard and still waste a lot of energy on things that won't help further your long term goals. You have to remember that people here have gone down similar paths as yours. Most of them are trying to help you even if it sounds a bit harsh. Take a look at some of the fighers logs here - like Finns. It should be helpful.

[zop]

There is so much win in this thread.

[Sean O Deere]

Do you have nude pics?