[BJH]

Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck

I like any woman who looks nice and IS nice.

and one that loves you and not your money.

[yendor28]

the grass is always greener on the other side........

A quality woman is wonderful regardless of her passport

[ghertr]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

How is an IQ test a BS way to measure intelligence? It is a measurement of cognitive abilities. That's intelligence in my book. I'm sure you'll say that there are other factors such as creativity, but to me, that isn't intelligence.

You can say African Americans have less access to good schools or whatever you want. The fact is that by adulthood, enviromental factors have very little affect on intelligence. A heritability of .5 would imply IQ is substantially heritable. Studies on adults show heritability could be as high as 0.8. This would mean IQ is hereditary and based on genetics more than anything else. Anyway, this is not what my orginal post was about. The cause why African Americans have lower IQs is irrelevant. It's totally off the subject and it doesn't change the facts. The fact is that they do and it perpetuates the stereotype.

The fact that IQ is purported to be the definition of intelligence is ridiculous. That measures academic intelligence which may have litle bearing in a professional/social world. EQ is a better measre of one's overall "intelligence." But I agree with Gardner's MI theory.

[norcal313]

Originally Posted by NHB7

Sweet lord I can't believe I'm even debating with people about this stuff on Mayberry nonentheless. They have bad peripheral vision? Really? What study did you get that from? Or was this your own study...because it is BS.

Typically when people refer to asians as bad drivers they are referring to Asians that were born in Asia, but moved to America, not Asians that have lived here there whole lives. The driving laws are different in Asia, as well as the level of traffic. I had a teacher who was doing research in China and she had a hard time driving in Asia because she wasn't accustom to the driving laws there. Thus don't be suprised if you go to Asia and hear Cacasians suck at driving.

I'll find the study for you, give me a bit since I'm at work.

EDIT: Found this for now.

From: "Eyelid Surgery, Asian Blepharoplasty" found at Facial Reconstructive Surgical and Medical Center.

"Eyelid surgery can also be performed on the upper eyelids when the excess skin interferes with peripheral vision. After a visual field analysis, performed by an eye doctor, indicates deficiencies, upper blepharoplasty can be performed to improve vision."

[NeoOsiris]

polish chicks are hot too. that korean girl is hot from that pic. i pretty much like any girls that are good looking and are genuine aka not skanks or whores.

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by ghertr

The fact that IQ is purported to be the definition of intelligence is ridiculous. That measures academic intelligence which may have litle bearing in a professional/social world. EQ is a better measre of one's overall "intelligence." But I agree with Gardner's MI theory.

IQ is a measurement of cognative thinking and capacity. I'm not sure what you mean by academic intelligence or how you don't consider cognative ability to be intelligence. As far as it having little bearing, every study I know of has shown IQ directly correlates with academic success, job performance, socioeconomic advancement (level of education, occupation, and income), and social pathology (adult criminality, poverty, unemployment, dependence on welfare, children outside of marriage).

EQ describes an ability, capacity, or skill to perceive, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion...l_intelligence

Have you ever taken an EQ test? I would say it is the farthest thing from a measure of intelligence as a bowl of dog food.
Your best friend tells you he is cheating on his wife. What would you do? A. Tell his wife B. Sleep with his wife C. Tell his wife D. Mind your business
It reminds me of those questionaires in teen magazines that tell you if you are a whore or not.. or a personality test at best. You really think this is a better measure of intelligence than testing cognative abilities? Seriously? I'm glad employers, educational instituttions, and high intelligence groups like MENSA disagree.

[Zankou]

EQ is a way for stupid people to explain to themselves why they're really "smart" even though they're not designing semiconductor devices, teaching linguistics at a university, capable of mastering basic calculus, or anything else that requires high-caliber intellectual firepower. See, they're smart in "other ways," ways like their pet dog is smart -- empathy, social relationships, etc.

[ghertr]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

IQ is a measurement of cognative thinking and capacity. I'm not sure what you mean by academic intelligence or how you don't consider cognative ability to be intelligence. As far as it having little bearing, every study I know of has shown IQ directly correlates with academic success, job performance, socioeconomic advancement (level of education, occupation, and income), and social pathology (adult criminality, poverty, unemployment, dependence on welfare, children outside of marriage).

EQ describes an ability, capacity, or skill to perceive, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion...l_intelligence

Have you ever taken an EQ test? I would say it is the farthest thing from a measure of intelligence as a bowl of dog food.
Your best friend tells you he is cheating on his wife. What would you do? A. Tell his wife B. Sleep with his wife C. Tell his wife D. Mind your business
It reminds me of those questionaires in teen magazines that tell you if you are a whore or not.. or a personality test at best. You really think this is a better measure of intelligence than testing cognative abilities? Seriously? I'm glad employers, educational instituttions, and high intelligence groups like MENSA disagree.

i understand that, but where i take umbrage is over the definition of intelligence. I happen to think that intelligence is more than a standardized test or in the case of IQ, a cognitive ability test that when I took it had a lot to do with pattern thinking. I scored pretty nicely on the IQ test when I was younger and I haven't taken it in a while, but I had heard that it hasn't really changed and that IQ is supposed to remain static over the years. So if it hasn't changed, I would think that people exposed to different mental stimuli growing up would perform better. If it is supposed to be a measure of intelligence, I don't see why you could actually improve on your IQ score as some have (this is based on conversations with friends, not research, so if you have anything that indicates otherwise, I would appreciate it).

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by yendor28

the grass is always greener on the other side........

A quality woman is wonderful regardless of her passport

Ummm....No I think American women in general are pretty much materialistic fat-asses.

[Zankou]

There are a variety of reasons why IQ score might change over time, but the most obvious is that IQ tests are not all calculated on the same basic scale. IQ is a relative concept, and there are potentially large differences between how a score correlates with the bell curve for a given test.

If you take enough tests and average out the percentages on the curve, they should converge, but the basic fact that a given numerical score varies over time is not surprising. What is surprising is if the overall distribution varies over time for a group -- which you basically don't see. You also would not expect to see much variation within the same IQ testing protocol.

Just as most people don't "become" smarter in real life either. They generally remain where they were in elementary school on the bell curve of intelligence, relative to others.

Btw, if you are interested in this subject, the wikipedia has some terrific articles on it. It's hard to beat, and cuts through many of the most common preconceptions regarding IQ testing.