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11-05-2006, 10:03 PM
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Purple Belt
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Location: australia
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who wears a tie?
SO how many sherdoggers wear a tie?
a) at work?
b) socially?
why/why not?
My friends and i were chatting about the practical purpose? Do they hide the buttons? Help with spillage?
Any ideas?
Found the history on some website:
my summary: We wear ties because, 400 years ago, some old Frenchmen thought the neckties of Croatian Soldiers looked cool so it became popular everywhere.
The Neck Tie-Cravat
Hrvat means Croat=Cravat
As millions around the world dress to go to work each day or to go out for the evening, most probably do not realize that a major accessory of their wardrobe originated in Croatia. The necktie, or kravata, is Croatia's contribution to the world of fashion. The use of the necktie in Croatia dates back to as early as the mid-1600s. During the European Thirty Year War (1618-1648), Croatian soldiers were also drawn into battle and sent to fight in various regions of Europe. At that time, the traditional Croatian military dress included a picturesque scarf tied around the neck in a manner which is very similar to the style in which the necktie is worn today. In 1618, some agents of the Holy Roman Emperor were in Prague being disagreeable. Some
citizens threw the agents out a window. The agents landed on a dunghill, so they survived. Nevertheless, they were, in a foul temper, and (to simplify a bit) the "Defenestration of Prague" led to the Thirty Years War, which quickly, led to the need for Croatian mercenarie's. They were rough-and-ready fellows, but they did not neglect the decorative arts: They wore colorful neckwear. The word "'cravat" is derived from the word "Croat" and neckties are descended from what those Croatians wore. It is unclear why those Croatians execited so much imitation. Few people at the moment are sticklers about following the fashions of Croatian mercenaries. Because some Croatian soldiers were stationed in Paris, this "Croatian style" greatly impressed their French counterparts. French men adopted this new fashion during the reign of Louis XIV and referred to it as "a la Croate". Eventually, it became known by the French word "cravate". The tie entered the bourgeois fashion of that era as a sign of cultivation and elegance and went on to conquer the whole of Europe. Today, men across the entire civilized world tie knots in neckties in every imaginable color and made from a wide array of materials from silk to burlap. Unlike many fashions, which fade or disappear over time, the necktie has retained its popularity for hundreds of years and is still considered a basic item of most men's wardrobes, rather than just a decorative accessory. As the court of Lottis XIV was a trendsetter in culturevand fashion, tile use of the "'cravate" becamne wide- spread across Europe, with each country adopting a slightly altered word in their own language.
NAMES FOR THE NECKTIE (CRAVAT) AROUND THE WORLD: Hungarian: Kravat, English: Cravat-Neck Tie, Portuguese: Oravata, Croatian: Kravata, Polish: Krawat, German: Krawatte, Italian: Cravatta, French: Cravate, Spanish: Corvatta.
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11-05-2006, 11:35 PM
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Yet another reason to hate the French.
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11-06-2006, 01:21 AM
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Working at a movie studio with other animators..We wear pretty much whatever the hell we want. Jeans, Shorts, tshirts..etc...
In a social setting I belong to a few private clubs that have a dress code and I wear suits and ties etc. I have no problem getting dressed up.
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11-06-2006, 01:25 AM
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The Bad
Join Date: Nov 2005
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I wear a suit and tie to work, it's not so bad once you get used to it.
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11-06-2006, 02:21 AM
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Brown Belt
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A lot of jobs have dress codes. Not always coat and ties, but a lot of jobs tell you what you can wear. Ties really aren't too bad when you get used to them.
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11-06-2006, 03:45 AM
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Never. I despise them.
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11-06-2006, 07:08 AM
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Black Belt
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Nope,we are given a uniform and you get to choose,polos or shirt and tie.Chose polos.
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11-06-2006, 07:58 AM
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I used to wear a tie almost everyday. I like dressing up, but haven't gotten many chances as of late. I wear them if it is the appropriate setting. Definitely if the enviroment calls for elegance, like fine dining.
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11-06-2006, 09:27 AM
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I do. Here's how I tie them:
Windsor
Half Windsor
4 in Hand
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11-06-2006, 09:29 AM
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Orange Belt
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I wear a tie to work. It's how professional men dress in many industries. I don't mind them at all. It's one of those things that's not worth fighting.
Story time. About ten years ago, I took a contract job with a financial company. They told me how great it was going to be because, among other perks, they had casual Fridays. In this office, men wore suits - full on suits with matching jackets and pants. Proper conservative shoes, etc. On Friday, since it was 'casual' I took my two suits to the cleaners and wore some jeans and a hoody (the server room was cold). I got called into a managers office. He said, "Casual Friday, in the financial world, means you can leave your cufflinks at home."
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