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PS3 gamers check this out possible new CELL chip coming out.
IBM just introduced a new version of CELL CPU that is in the PS3 that is already an impressive CPU and has just up the performance on it now it can handle 32 gigs of memory not the 2 gig limit of the older chip and gone is RAMBUS memory <-Great now it is using conventional DDR memory much lower cost and not much of a performance hit. But the best part it has 5 times the floating point power of the past chip 190 GFlops huge jump over the old chip.
Not saying that this chip is heading to the PS4 but it seems highly likely that this chip or some form of it could be heading to the next generation of playstation, To add to this news is the chip has been placed into what could be the first Supercomputer that will pass the magical petaflop number.
In what would give IBM possibly a 1 to 2 year lead over it's top competitors is a monster of a computer that uses a combination of Quad AMD chips and Cell chips to go after this milestone. I view this as great news all around other part of that news is the new chip uses less then half the power of the old chip. Linux people may interested in this news the chip has been tuned to improve Linux and MySQL database performance.
Could this be the right mix of backwards compatibility so missing in the PS3 while providing an exciting path for upgrade of the amazing CELL chip.
Wasnt there a big thing about PS3's not realizing their potential? Why would there be a need for a new chip?
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The Cell is not a good CPU for games, and Intels new line of CPU's will take a shit all over it for anything of that sort.
Not all CPU's are good for everything. They all excel at different tasks. This is why AMD is currently not bankrupt. Their CPU's have not been better then the equivalent Intel offers since Intel released their dual core chips. Now, as Intels newer 45nm CPU's come out, AMD is an afterthought. However, because of it's architecture, AMD chips are still better then anything Intel offers at the same price points for operating servers.
The current CELL CPU is not better then the CPU inside the Xbox 360. Whats inside the Xbox 360 is worse then even a $50 Core 2 duo. That was release years ago.
The Cell processor is fantastic for crunching large numbers and taking on huge arrays. This is why it is used in Supercomputers. Supercomputers are not used to play video games, and if they attempted to, would fail (mainly due to lacking any type of GPU).
Sony won't use another CELL CPU in PS3, trust me. Both Microsoft and Sony will work with Intel.
Also, DDR2 memory is already becoming dated with DD3 becoming cheaper. 65NM technoology is also a thing of the past, with 45nm CPU's already on the market.
The Cell is not a CPU for games, home use or anything of that sort. It's a CPU made for super computers and and now servers. It's extremely fast OLD technology that is not used for the functions a game system or PC need.
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The Cell is not a good CPU for games, and Intels new line of CPU's will take a shit all over it for anything of that sort.
That is why IBM went back to the drawing board to redesign the chip to fix the issues with the CPU such as limited memory and vastly improved floating point. The early stage problems with the CPU it required such as huge jump in programming the thing no one wanted to tackle it. But as time passed many developers have become comfortable with writing programs for the CPU and optimizing games to make better use of the CPU's 8 processing cores.
One of the newest ideas is using it in PC's to act as a specialize processor for taking on problems that would bog down the microprocessor such as image processing and voice recognition. Toshiba is showing a laptop that they say within a year could all but eliminate the use of the keyboard and mouse by combining the CELL chip with a quad core cpu and very custom programming in a laptop.
That is why IBM went back to the drawing board to redesign the chip to fix the issues with the CPU such as limited memory and vastly improved floating point. The early stage problems with the CPU it required such as huge jump in programming the thing no one wanted to tackle it. But as time passed many developers have become comfortable with writing programs for the CPU and optimizing games to make better use of the CPU's 8 processing cores.
One of the newest ideas is using it in PC's to act as a specialize processor for taking on problems that would bog down the microprocessor such as image processing and voice recognition. Toshiba is showing a laptop that they say within a year could all but eliminate the use of the keyboard and mouse by combining the CELL chip with a quad core cpu and very custom programming in a laptop.
90 percent of programs and games don't use four cores, let alone 8. In fact less then half currently even use two cores. This is why an E8400 is faster then a Q9450 and Q6600 for gaming.
The fact is, the Cell still can't use DDR3 memory, is not 45nm, doesn't feature on die memory controllers, and is overshadowed by the new CPU's Intel is coming out with Q3.
The new CPU's Intel is releasing is the biggest jump in technology in over a decade.
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The Cell is not a good CPU for games, and Intels new line of CPU's will take a shit all over it for anything of that sort.
Not all CPU's are good for everything. They all excel at different tasks. This is why AMD is currently not bankrupt. Their CPU's have not been better then the equivalent Intel offers since Intel released their dual core chips. Now, as Intels newer 45nm CPU's come out, AMD is an afterthought. However, because of it's architecture, AMD chips are still better then anything Intel offers at the same price points for operating servers.
The current CELL CPU is not better then the CPU inside the Xbox 360. Whats inside the Xbox 360 is worse then even a $50 Core 2 duo. That was release years ago.
The Cell processor is fantastic for crunching large numbers and taking on huge arrays. This is why it is used in Supercomputers. Supercomputers are not used to play video games, and if they attempted to, would fail (mainly due to lacking any type of GPU).
Sony won't use another CELL CPU in PS3, trust me. Both Microsoft and Sony will work with Intel.
Also, DDR2 memory is already becoming dated with DD3 becoming cheaper. 65NM technoology is also a thing of the past, with 45nm CPU's already on the market.
The Cell is not a CPU for games, home use or anything of that sort. It's a CPU made for super computers and and now servers. It's extremely fast OLD technology that is not used for the functions a game system or PC need.
I guess that demo I saw with the University Of Texas Supercomputer moving in realtime a model of a fully realized City with streets and sidewalks using many terabytes of data would not be considered gaming but then again watching this complex memory model move across an array of 4 by 4 high res LCD's would not make for great gaming not that anyone in there right mind would devote massive amounts of computing power to games.
90 percent of programs and games don't use four cores, let alone 8. In fact less then half currently even use two cores. This is why an E8400 is faster then a Q9450 and Q6600 for gaming.
The fact is, the Cell still can't use DDR3 memory, is not 45nm, doesn't feature on die memory controllers, and is overshadowed by the new CPU's Intel is coming out with Q3.
The new CPU's Intel is releasing is the biggest jump in technology in over a decade.
lol. that is true, but I think it is higher than 90%. if the program compiles and works on 1 cpu, we are happy.
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I guess that demo I saw with the University Of Texas Supercomputer moving in realtime a model of a fully realized City with streets and sidewalks using many terabytes of data would not be considered gaming but then again watching this complex memory model move across an array of 4 by 4 high res LCD's would not make for great gaming not that anyone in there right mind would devote massive amounts of computing power to games.
Texas Advanced Computing Center
No, it isn;'t gaming, and no they were not using any type of GPU that doesn't cost under $2,000,000
Games now are mainly GPU related. In fact, even a 9800GTX and a 9800GXT bottle neck the new Intel CPU's. The Cell could be able to lift walls and part oceans and it wouldn't make a different because it's still bottlenecked.
Rotating a 3d model of a city and gaming, are two completely different things. This is why 3d artists don't use the same CPU's or the same GPU's as people who play games. It's why you can make movies like Shrek but not play games that look as amazing. It's why we don't have to spend $7000 on a console.
The computer in that video is a Supercomputer that uses 16,000 AMD Quad Core CPU's. It has 64,000 processing cores....
So why even post a video of a Supercomputer, that costs millions and millions of dollars, that uses 15,000 AMD Quad core CPU's, when we are talking about a single CPU in a $400 console that is dictated completely by the GPU? Not to mention the other hardware is totally different and it's the size of a football field. It also has nothing to do with the CELL. AMD = Not CELL.
btw, if you added AA, Texture filtering, and HDR lighting to the city, the computer would blow up.
Also you notice how he said Super computers are built to tackle extremely large scientific problems
It's completely different then it being built for gaming. If you took one of those AMD Quad Cores used in the Super computer, and put it in a system, then compared benchmarks with an Intel Xeon Quad core, the AMD would fail. Go look up the benchmarks yourself. AMD CPU's are trash in comparison and have nothing to do with CELL.
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Hey you want to get smart with me do you understand what multi-threaded programming is or do you also understand that Intel is developing CPU's with 8 cores. Why would they be developing such chips if there was no need for it. Just because developers are not ripping out new programs that are using all 8 cores is not the point. If you remember when the PS2 came out is was backwards backwards compatible with the original playstation.
The PS3 comes out the way it is because the MIPS processor had been largely drop by SGI Sony decided to move to the PowerPC architecture this was done because at the time you favorite chip designer Intel was not able to bring to market a chip that was low cost but powerful for the gaming applications. So Sony seeing the success that IBM was having at producing a chip at low cost but running a fast clock and delivering good performance they decided to go with them. But here is the problem many of the games that where designed for the PS2 or if you went that far back PS would not run.
Sony tried getting emulation running with very little success I am glad that IBM did not drop the development of the CELL and is providing a path for a future. So this gives you two things getting away from the very expensive RAMBUS memory that really never lived up to it's potential and switching to the much more cost effective DDR memory. It is not like the CPU cannot produce great results seeing that it crushes Intel latest Quads in floating point. This is great news for PS3 and Sony's future because now they do not have to shop around for a new design IBM is continuing the development of the CELL.
Here is a little paper about that topic and the problems Intel will have going forward.
