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Old 06-05-2008, 06:40 PM   #631 (permalink)
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how's "la haine" yeahbee?

ive heard it's pretty good, and i assume kassovitz is talented, as he was included in "amelie."
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:50 PM   #632 (permalink)
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La Haine is probably the best "ghetto" movie ever, without being a gangsta movie. really poetic. defintly worth checking out
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:05 PM   #633 (permalink)
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1) tommy lee jones advances the moral themes of the film.
That was what I didn't like. There's all the "symbols" with his actions and what he says, particularly that final scene, but that was neither the interesting part nor the important part (at least it wasn't to me).

The Coens said that No Country was the closest they'd ever come and probably would ever come to action, but I think it's a shame they had so little interest/confidence in their ability to make a thriller, because No Country could've been a great one had Tommy Lee Jones' character not been there to stall the story.

It's a matter of personal interest, and while I like Tommy Lee Jones, he wasn't what ended up being the most engaging part of the film and did nothing but slow it down for me.

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2) it's that way in the book, and it's a stylistic way of showing that moss was just one more casualty of the drugs wars. every other guy gunned down over coke had a story too, but to the cops he's just another blown off face.
I'm not really in a position to criticize such great cinematic minds as the Coen brothers, but had I been in their place, I would've shown the shootout. I get what you're saying, but it doesn't make sense to explain/show the deaths of Woody Harrelson and Stephen Root and then NOT show the death of the main character, especially when the scene could've been done so fucking well.
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i see no country as a meta-thiller.

let's face it, if you want like a straight thriller, hitchcock has made several that are basically unbeatable. they wring every bit of greatness out of the genre.

mccarthy isn't that kind of writer though. he's an honest to God literary great, this adaptation isn't not the coens' take on it- it is the novel. it's a super straighforward adaption much like "sin city" where they're trying to bring his vision to the screen and not theirs.
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la haine was badass. watch irreversible too.
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Billy Bob Thornton, Martin Sheen, Gary Oldman, Jason Patric, Bill Pullman, Lukas Haas, Viggo Mortensen and Mickey Rourke acted in the movie, but their scenes were eventually removed. Reportedly, the first assembled cut took seven months to edit and ran three and a half hours, with Thornton contributing three hours of narrative voice-over material, none of which was ultimately used.
man I want a directors cut, asa miniseries perhaps

has anybody read the book? I wnna know if the narration is straight from the book
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Regarding the quote with all the actors who never made the cut?

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I can vet THE SALTON SEA. I must warn you it feels like a very, very well done cable movie back when you could respect moves made for cable. There's no shortage of style or wit, but it's not a unified picture, and passersby are conspicuously absent. Similar in feel would be DEVIL IN A BLUE DRESS.

That being said, it's got Vincent D'Onofrio with no nose in it.

Good revenge film.
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