Serious Movie Discussion

[Bullitt68]

As anybody can see from reading what I've said in the past, I don't find Oldboy to be anything special. However, reading that Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are going to do a remake. . .

[YeahBee]

^^ I agree with the above but I will have to correct you once again Lethal Weapon>Die Hard, come on man give it up

[YeahBee]

Currently watching Almost Famous

easily on my top five movies of all times. great frekkin movie with a soundtrack to die for,

ps real music not Phil Collins ds

[golfpunk]

Originally Posted by Bullitt68

I love the Rambo films, but the three I listed are in a league of their own.

Predator, like Terminator 2, might have to be disqualified for the sci-fi angle. When it's simply action, it's in the top three, but when it comes to pure action, you can take Predator out and have it as Die Hard>Lethal Weapon>Everything else.

I know Yeahbee disagrees with that order, but it's the truth

And even between the Rambo films, First Blood>First Blood Part II.

What? How can First Blood be better than First Blood 2? First Blood isn't even a hardcore action film, it's more of a survival-in-the-wilderness type movie. The part in FB 2 where the helicopter drops the nuke on top of the waterfall is the best part of any action movie. Ever. Worth the price of admission alone.

Predator could be classified as either horror, sci-fi, or action. Take your pick. Aliens is also above all those films you mentioned, if you will consider it action as opposed to sci fi.

[Bullitt68]

Originally Posted by YeahBee

^^ I agree with the above but I will have to correct you once again Lethal Weapon>Die Hard, come on man give it up

I actually rewatched Lethal Weapon a few nights ago and it only furthered my conviction that Die Hard>Lethal Weapon.

Originally Posted by YeahBee

ps real music not Phil Collins ds

Phil Collins is as real as it gets.

Originally Posted by golfpunk

What? How can First Blood be better than First Blood 2? First Blood isn't even a hardcore action film, it's more of a survival-in-the-wilderness type movie. The part in FB 2 where the helicopter drops the nuke on top of the waterfall is the best part of any action movie. Ever. Worth the price of admission alone.

1) Again, things change when we're talking pure action. Overall, First Blood is infinitely superior to First Blood Part II. However, it's not a pure action film, so that changes things.

2) There are a lot of scenes in action movie history that are superior to that scene in First Blood Part II. Great scene, but I myself wouldn't consider it the best.

Originally Posted by golfpunk

Predator could be classified as either horror, sci-fi, or action. Take your pick. Aliens is also above all those films you mentioned, if you will consider it action as opposed to sci fi.

That's the thing: If it can be categorized as more than one genre, then it's not a pure action film. You can't call Die Hard anything but action. Same for Lethal Weapon, same for First Blood Part II, same for Under Siege, etc.

However, if we put "pure" aside and just lumped all action films together, then I think I'd have it as follows:

1. Die Hard
2. Lethal Weapon
3. Predator
4. Terminator 2
5. Commando

All other films can fight for their rankings, but these films are by themselves at the top of the genre. I love Total Recall, I love Under Siege, and yes, I love First Blood Part II, but I think those five films are the cream of the crop in action.

[YeahBee]

First Blood is acctually a good movie, the rest not so much, I want a modicum of actign atleast even in my action movies

[byukid]

Originally Posted by Bullitt68

As anybody can see from reading what I've said in the past, I don't find Oldboy to be anything special. However, reading that Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are going to do a remake. . .

dude i could not stand oldboy because VLC has the worst time with subtitles. pissed me off so badly. i still want to see it

[YeahBee]

Under Siege is awesome schrt ptiut

[YeahBee]

Originally Posted by HH

Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma (1975)

Sadly enough, I've seen this like three times now.

It's just fun. In a sick way..

have you seen Caligula?

serious movie which Larry Flynt got hold of and edited in xxx material

[golfpunk]

Originally Posted by Bullitt68

1. Die Hard
2. Lethal Weapon
3. Predator
4. Terminator 2
5. Commando

OMG you cannot be serious with that list. Commando? hahahaha! When was the last time you watched this? It's enjoyable as a kid, but watch it as an adult and it's just too incredibly stupid to take seriously. At least with Die Hard, the film can be taken somewhat seriously because he knocks the bad dudes off one-by-one in a realistic manner, instead of 1 dude versus 100 like Commando.

Here's the real list:

1. First Blood Part 2
2. Die Hard
3. Aliens
4. Terminator 2
5. Fortress