Serious Movie Discussion

[jjsefton]

Originally Posted by baatar

I saw Irreversible just because I'm a huge Monica fan. That tunnel scene--phew--talk about mixed emotions!

I've seen thousands of films and without a doubt that was the hardest thing I ever sat though.


Its weird watching Vincent Cassel as the "Night Fox" in Oceans 12/13 knowing he was in this flick and that scene with the fire extinguisher

[The Special One]

Originally Posted by JSN

i'm suprised at the amount of love "city of God" gets. it's a good movie, but hardly mindblowing. i don't know if i'd even put it in my top 100.

That really surprises me to hear that. I thought it was awesome.

[Johner]

I found City of God to be overrated as well.

[Bullitt68]

I'm so glad I decided to rewatch Seven Samurai. I've always loved it but for the last couple of years I've considered Throne of Blood my favorite samurai film of Kurosawa's (along with Sword of Doom for overall samurai films). I'd seen Throne of Blood probably two or three times in between viewings of Seven Samurai, but having just rewatched it again, I definitely consider it my favorite.

On Sunday on IFC I'm recording Ikiru, as well. I've still got to see that and Kagemusha from Kurosawa.

[bafflemeant]

For me, the greatest film director of all time has to be Rainer Werner Fassbinder. I guess most of his fans are gay, and so he has acquired a reputation as a gay director or a director of films about gay issues, but I'm not gay and I think that reputation of his oeuvre is undeserved and innacurate. Rather, he's the greatest cinematic disciple of Nietzsche and the greatest cinematic critic of Marx. He gets past all the humanistic tripe of most so-called art-films and exposes human relationships in all their power-mad, backstabbing, ruinous depravity. Most of his movies end in the characters' deaths after they've been systematically dismantled by their so-called loved ones.

In addition to being an interesting filmmaker, he was also an intriguing personality. Andy Warhol called him the strangest person he ever met. The guy used cocaine to make up to five independently-funded movies a year for about a decade, then dropped dead of a drug overdose in his thirties.

As far as American directors go, David Lynch and David Cronenberg pretty much steal the show in my books.

[Voodoo Booboo]

This thread made me realize that I haven't seen a good movie for a while.. The last one I got started on was The Big Sleep with Bogart but I never got into it. I should watch a good movie one of these days. I'm watching easier movies currently, but that's nice too.

[bafflemeant]

Originally Posted by Bullitt68

I'm so glad I decided to rewatch Seven Samurai. I've always loved it but for the last couple of years I've considered Throne of Blood my favorite samurai film of Kurosawa's (along with Sword of Doom for overall samurai films). I'd seen Throne of Blood probably two or three times in between viewings of Seven Samurai, but having just rewatched it again, I definitely consider it my favorite.

On Sunday on IFC I'm recording Ikiru, as well. I've still got to see that and Kagemusha from Kurosawa.

Sword of Doom is one of my all-time favorites. I never liked 7 Samurai, but I do enjoy the Kurosawa films (I forget the titles) based on Macbeth and King Lear.

[baatar]

Originally Posted by jjsefton

I've seen thousands of films and without a doubt that was the hardest thing I ever sat though.


Its weird watching Vincent Cassel as the "Night Fox" in Oceans 12/13 knowing he was in this flick and that scene with the fire extinguisher

Another film that affected me similarly was Monster. All the way through I was thinking, holy shit this bitch is messed up--at the same time I was really feeling for her loneliness and just wanting to prove her worth to someone else. I love it when a movie require more than frame of mind to enjoy.

[georgekillian]

Originally Posted by bafflemeant

For me, the greatest film director of all time has to be Rainer Werner Fassbinder. I guess most of his fans are gay, and so he has acquired a reputation as a gay director or a director of films about gay issues, but I'm not gay and I think that reputation of his oeuvre is undeserved and innacurate. Rather, he's the greatest cinematic disciple of Nietzsche and the greatest cinematic critic of Marx. He gets past all the humanistic tripe of most so-called art-films and exposes human relationships in all their power-mad, backstabbing, ruinous depravity. Most of his movies end in the characters' deaths after they've been systematically dismantled by their so-called loved ones.

In addition to being an interesting filmmaker, he was also an intriguing personality. Andy Warhol called him the strangest person he ever met. The guy used cocaine to make up to five independently-funded movies a year for about a decade, then dropped dead of a drug overdose in his thirties.

As far as American directors go, David Lynch and David Cronenberg pretty much steal the show in my books.

fassbinder is excellent. the recent criterion edition of berlin alexanderplatz is really something, one of the best that criterion has ever done. i just finished watching errol morris' the fog of war his documentary abour former secretary of defense robert s. mcnamara and as usual with morris it was completely fascinating. i'd highly recommend it as it gives an inside look into vietnam and some of ww2.

[Matrix389]

Just watched Se7en again. Was with a girl who hadn't seen it though and it seemed predictable. Fincher pissed me off with the elongated scenes though, as they sometimes got boring, but a touch i really liked was the credits scrolling downward at the end, as if plumetting to hell.