Serious Movie Discussion

[Bullitt68]

Originally Posted by The Hug Dog

Pretty much every other poster in this thread then

Yep.

Originally Posted by The Hug Dog

I'm not saying she should be there or she shouldn't, I'm not qualified to say. out of those films I have seen Holiday, Bringing Up Baby, The Philidelphia Story and The African Queen. Whilst I enjoyed all of these performances and found Katherine Hepburn to be hugely alluring and her performances endearing, I'm not sure I would consider them in an all time greats list. So anyway, what movies of hers (ideally non comedic performances) should I watch, that make you believe she is in the top 3 of all time.

Well watching them all allows you to take consistency into consideration, and outside of Spencer Tracy, I think Katharine Hepburn is the most consistent actor of all-time, so keep that in mind.

Specifically, I consider her performance in Alice Adams (1935) the second greatest acting performance in film history behind De Niro in Raging Bull, so that'd be the best place to start.

After that, her performances in Stage Door (1937) (particularly her stage debut at the end of the film), Suddenly, Last Summer (1959), Long Day's Journey Into Night (1962), and The Lion in Winter (1968) highlight her skills well.

Originally Posted by JasonGlassbourg

now i'm torn........ you are dissing brad pitt, my favourite actor, but you post the fedor owning god picture... which i've posted on sherdog about 50 times.... and he's my favourite fighter. maybe we should start talking about mma bullit so we get along better

Go through my post history and see if you like me better when I'm talking about MMA

Originally Posted by JasonGlassbourg

by the way no one on your top 10 list could have pulled off mickey oneil as well as brad pitt did, or even close.

Well I don't think that's a great performance, so that doesn't mean anything to me.

Brad Pitt could never have pulled off Jake La Motta or Travis Bickle or Joe Wilson or Henry Drummond or Norman Thayer or Gil Carter or Stanley Kowalski or Terry Malloy or Jefferson Smith or Macaulay Connor as well as the respective actors who played the aforementioned parts.

In fact, I shutter to imagine him in some of the parts.

Originally Posted by HH

There isn't any problem. I just don't think he deserves to be there. It might be hard for you to swallow but,..

If you've seen the films I listed, then yes, there is a problem.

Usually, people don't include her in their lists because they haven't seen any of her films, or if they have, have only seen one or two.

When people have seen her films and they don't think she's AT LEAST the greatest actress to ever live, if not one of the greatest actors of all-time, then yeah, I have a problem understanding the thought-process.

Which films of hers have you seen?

Originally Posted by HH

I can't say anything about Tracy because I haven't seen ANY of his films, it's quite sad.

But I have Judgment at Nuremburg and getting Adam's Rib as we speak.

At least you're taking steps to correct yourself

And keep in mind: Tracy was dying while he was making Judgment at Nuremburg and he still performed exceptionally.

[flemmy]

i don't really care about actors/actresses in general. i much prefer the accomplishments of directors when it comes to picking up a new movie.

i've seen plenty of great actors in shitty movies and vice versa to give that much credence to them. Directors have much more consistent bodies of work.

[Bullitt68]

Originally Posted by flemmy

i don't really care about actors/actresses in general. i much prefer the accomplishments of directors when it comes to picking up a new movie.

i've seen plenty of great actors in shitty movies and vice versa to give that much credence to them. Directors have much more consistent bodies of work.

Well you don't like old films, so I hesitate to recommend watching Spencer Tracy---the most consistent actor ever---because you probably wouldn't like the films or his performances.

In any case, I disagree with the overall sentiment express. If I like an actor, they can sometimes get me through a film I otherwise wouldn't care about.

[YeahBee]

Brad Pitt has a long line of great performances, that all are wastly different, truly one of the greats of our times

and modern acting>old time acting

Edward Norton should also be mentioned

[flosh]

It's a team effort though. If the acting sucks, the film most likely sucks. If the directing sucks... well you get the picture. get it? the picture.!!!!!!!!!

[HH]

If you've seen the films I listed, then yes, there is a problem.

Usually, people don't include her in their lists because they haven't seen any of her films, or if they have, have only seen one or two.

When people have seen her films and they don't think she's AT LEAST the greatest actress to ever live, if not one of the greatest actors of all-time, then yeah, I have a problem understanding the thought-process.

Which films of hers have you seen?

I'm not sure but in Philadelphia Story and African Queen I couldn't stand her.
Adam's Rib shortly.

Throw a couple of Tracy-must-see-flicks Bullitt.
I need you here.
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[JasonGlassbourg*]

Originally Posted by Bullitt68

Well I don't think that's a great performance, so that doesn't mean anything to me.

Brad Pitt could never have pulled off Jake La Motta or Travis Bickle or Joe Wilson or Henry Drummond or Norman Thayer or Gil Carter or Stanley Kowalski or Terry Malloy or Jefferson Smith or Macaulay Connor as well as the respective actors who played the aforementioned parts.

In fact, I shutter to imagine him in some of the parts.

you don't think mickey oneil was a great performance? ok let's just see if it's ever going to be possible for us to see eye to eye since i'm new to this thread..

The Big Lebowski
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
American Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Anchorman
Goodfellas
The Usual Suspects
Apocalypse Now
Snatch
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Office Space
Blow
American Beauty
The Boondock Saints
Casino
Reservoir Dogs
Requiem For A Dream
Rounders
Memento
Full Metal Jacket
LA Confidential

do you like any of these movies bullit? and seriously, what's your age.. i gotta know if i'm arguing with someone who grew up during the 40s and 50s and might be a little biased. i'm 25.

[HH]

Originally Posted by JasonGlassbourg

you don't think mickey oneil was a great performance? ok let's just see if it's ever going to be possible for us to see eye to eye since i'm new to this thread..

The Big Lebowski
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
American Psycho
Pulp Fiction
Anchorman
Goodfellas
The Usual Suspects
Apocalypse Now
Snatch
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Office Space
Blow
American Beauty
The Boondock Saints
Casino
Reservoir Dogs
Requiem For A Dream
Rounders
Memento
Full Metal Jacket
LA Confidential

do you like any of these movies bullit? and seriously, what's your age.. i gotta know if i'm arguing with someone who grew up during the 40s and 50s and might be a little biased. i'm 25.

I dig almost 80% of those films.

[flemmy]

Originally Posted by Bullitt68

Well you don't like old films, so I hesitate to recommend watching Spencer Tracy---the most consistent actor ever---because you probably wouldn't like the films or his performances.

In any case, I disagree with the overall sentiment express. If I like an actor, they can sometimes get me through a film I otherwise wouldn't care about.

since when have i been pegged to not like old films? i haven't seen nearly as many as you, but i've like almost all the ones i've seen. the only one i really disliked, and i've expressed this several times, is The Graduate.

[HH]

The Graduate is a cool movie.
Not great but it's cool.