Serious Movie Discussion

[JSN]

piven or cusack? because i feel that way about both of them lol. i'm sure cusack got him pretty much any role in one of his movies.

[flemmy]

Originally Posted by flosh

The Thing was remade from this The Thing from Another World (1951) .. they switched up the plot a lot though.

which were both based on a short story called Who Goes There?. Carpenter's, however, was much truer to the story.

[flemmy]

Originally Posted by Fijeeto

I didnt know he had beef with Cusack. Just another reason for me not to like Piven. Didnt they star together in Gross Pointe Blank? I wonder if Cusack had a hand in landing Jeremy that part. I just dont get why people like him so much. Ive seen him in alot of movies and as GSP would say, "Im not impressed with his performance".

Also Say Anything and One Crazy Summer and Serendipity AND Runaway Jury

[flemmy]

Just finished The Killing. Good movie. HUGE step up from Killer's Kiss. Very cool execution of the story, how they keep going back in time for different characters to show how it all goes down, and all the different perspectives. I think Kubrick did that once in Killer's Kiss, and while it was a cool technique, it was kind of out of place in that movie.

Also saw Never Back Down. it was lol

And Redbelt. Put together well, but incredibly incoherent i thought. I don't mind a movie that makes you piece shit together, but I think I do mind a movie about BJJ that makes you piece shit together.

everything seemed "wtf" to me in Redbelt. By the end some things are answered but a lot of it is still "wtf"

[JSN]

what are you talking about? there were no dots to connect. it was a steaming turd- that's the long and short of it. ridiculous pile of shit it was, as yoda would say.

[flemmy]

Originally Posted by JSN

what are you talking about? there were no dots to connect. it was a steaming turd- that's the long and short of it. ridiculous pile of shit it was, as yoda would say.

there were tons of parts where i felt i missed something.

[Fijeeto]

Originally Posted by JSN

piven or cusack? because i feel that way about both of them lol. i'm sure cusack got him pretty much any role in one of his movies.

I dont mind Cusack, but I cant stand Piven. Cusack isnt the greatest actor, but I like some of the films hes in.

[blackthorne]

Yea Redbelt sucked balls.

The only thing good about it was the always reliable Eijofor. But I know what you mean about Mamet not connecting the dots. Why and for what reason does Terry's wife "align" with Tim Allen and his wife, who was previously fucking her over on the fabric shit? The hot watch subplot goes nowhere unless you count that wretched performance by the widow. "Who's gonna pay these bills? Are you? Huh....are you?" How so much information forces Terry to forfeit going to court and why all that legal crap ensues to begin with, is just beyond me I guess. Mamet's abilities have been on a steady decline for quite a while: a fact validated by his retarded thesis about no longer being a liberal.

Never Back Down was actually better. Doesn't say much, but definitely not deserving of all the lame vitriol thrown at it by "hardcore" fans as if a good MMA-themed movie is possible. Although Bonner's new film may argue otherwise.

As for Piven, I think he has the potential to be a good, versatile, actor even if he's horribly one note. Cusack gets credit for not being one note for whatever reason, but is.

[JSN]

aw, you hurt cusack's feelings. he wants you back. he's in your backyard.

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[blackthorne]

Still a great song no matter how lame most of Cameron Crowe's stuff is (although I will defend to the death Vanilla Sky).