[Alcoholica]

Originally Posted by brackis1

As an "art" or method of approach, I respect it.
As a business strategy and marketing ploy I hate it.

If a man wants to go around picking up women then it's good stuff to learn, but with business comes preying on the average male over their insecurities. For those who don't actively concern themselves with the number of women they pick up, I'd rather not have people trying to label them as failures when they have other priorities or contributions to society.

Agreed 100%, and I dislike the whole "game" aspect of dating. Guys like David DeAngelo promise some magical guarantee that you will get all these women if you just follow their advice(and give them money).

Guys, all you need is a little self confidence and the ability to have a conversation with a woman without turning into a stuttering idiot.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Alcoholica

Agreed 100%, and I dislike the whole "game" aspect of dating. Guys like David DeAngelo promise some magical guarantee that you will get all these women if you just follow their advice(and give them money).

Guys, all you need is a little self confidence and the ability to have a conversation with a woman without turning into a stuttering idiot.

thats why you dont pay for it, you get his ebook for free from torrents and limewire.

you know deangelos company has over 200 people working for him, and he makes around 20 million annualy

[kakashi]

you know, i hate to admit it, but mystery's emphasis on evolutionary psychology has really changed the way I look at the world or social interactions ( a bit like rogan's bit about dmt and evolution, lol )

my favorite pua guy has to be tyler durden the "villain" from The Game, who is IMO the best theorist of the "community"

I don't think it helped me that much in my dating life, but more in my general life, I try to apply those simple principles every day :
live in the now, enjoy the moment
be confident
don't give a shit about what others think
have principles and live your life by them
be the man you want to be
continual improvement every day

might seem obvious, but it's not, social conditioning is a bitch

[stu3ufc]

Originally Posted by feedmelies

Already been done. Search.

so what--- i enjoy discussing it

yeah i agree about value and not being non needy/ sucking up to girls


has really helped me to approach girls--cos before i had no clue

[stu3ufc]

oh and Jeffy, lovedrop and mehow are awesome


anyone watch keys to the vip --its on youtube --awesome show ---you learn a lot from when they crash n burn

oh and the pickup artist season 2 will be on this summer!!

Originally Posted by XJ3B

mystery and style pretty much suck now

I think there good for beginers who need canned material to get them started--but there are alot more puas now with natural game---but i guess they must of used canned material when they begun

[farrellesque]

Originally Posted by stu3ufc

oh and Jeffy, lovedrop and mehow are awesome


anyone watch keys to the vip --its on youtube --awesome show ---you learn a lot from when they crash n burn

oh and the pickup artist season 2 will be on this summer!!




I think there good for beginers who need canned material to get them started--but there are alot more puas now with natural game---but i guess they must of used canned material when they begun

I love Keys, it's a legit awesome show. I throw down a few beers and watch a few episodes to get hyped before I go out in the weekends. You get to see both the epic fails and the greatest successes. I've picked up many good ideas from the show.

As for PUA stuff, I've read The Game and enjoyed it. I don't neccessarily agree with everything (evolution shit phase seems very akward to me), but there are lots of good tips.

[farrellesque]

Originally Posted by kakashi

you know, i hate to admit it, but mystery's emphasis on evolutionary psychology has really changed the way I look at the world or social interactions ( a bit like rogan's bit about dmt and evolution, lol )

my favorite pua guy has to be tyler durden the "villain" from The Game, who is IMO the best theorist of the "community"

I don't think it helped me that much in my dating life, but more in my general life, I try to apply those simple principles every day :
live in the now, enjoy the moment
be confident
don't give a shit about what others think
have principles and live your life by them
be the man you want to be
continual improvement every day

might seem obvious, but it's not, social conditioning is a bitch

I concur. Here are some of my musings over things to do if you want to be more successful at picking up chicks:


1) Be confident in everything you do.

(If you're not confident, become confident. Take up a sport, get a tan, change your clothes, join a gym etc, basically do things to make you feel better about yourself. There are different kinds of confidence [confidence in your own looks can be different from confidence in approaching women] but you need to at least be happy with yourself.

2) Be alpha. Keywords being relaxed, outgoing, loud, fun, taking up lots of space, determined, indepentent

3) Talk to women a lot. Random women. In shops, coffeehouses, bars, clubs, gyms, schools etc.

4) If you're boring, become interesting. Learn to hold a fucking conversation.

5) Approach every women with one thing in mind; "Damn, this girl is so lucky I picked her to talk to. I'm the man and she's about to get the ride of her life"

6) Learn to take rejection well.

7) Go out with the purpose of having fun. If you reek of desperation women will smell it on you. Pre-game with some buddies, get nice and liquored up, hit the clubs and spontaneously dance with random women, strike up conversations with strangers etc. Even if you don't get laid you will have had a good time.

8) A good way to get laid (if you're not picky) is to approach a set (preferably 3 or more girls), remembering points 1) and 2), throw some canned opener at them, make them laugh- whatever. Talk to them a bit and see which one of them (if any) are giving you IOIs. Focus on nailing that person. This kinda goes against Mystery's theory, but that's mainly because he only wants to bang 10s and I'm more than happy with a 7 or 8 (for now).

9) Learn to dance a bit. I know, I know. I don't like it either. But in a club, your chance of getting freaky with some random mamacita is infinitely smaller if you have no moves.

10) Up the sexual ante. At some point during your interaction, you will need to do this. Toucing her is a good start. Innocent places at first and then gradually naughtier. Dancefloor is a good place to do this. Another way is through sexual innuendo, innocuosly dropping sexually loaded terms into the conversation.

[Johner]

Been doing this shit for about two years, and I've mashed together a little something from everyone.

Inner Game; Badboy, Hypnotica and TylerDurden are all great for Inner Game.

Appearance; I use a mix of Mystery and Cajun for looks, specifically suited for me. Cajun has great body language, and you can read about it on his blog Cajun's Spice .

Approach Methods; TylerDurden use a lot of physical methods, poking the girls, shoving them, being caveman. Cajun on the other hand has the aura that attracts females, so he usually use this enigmatic smile and approach right away. I use a bit of both, depending on the chicks.

Conversations; Since I'm European, I tend to have more success with Badboy's way. Basically it's a direct approach, and from a lot of exercises you've learned to talk about everything.



In my opinion, the most important thing, and the foundation of it all is great Inner Game.
Mystery says that with success comes great Inner Game. I agree there, but the road to success is way harder if you do not develop a good Inner Game base first.

Check out Cajun in this episode of Keys to the VIP

Keys to the VIP Faxe vs Cajun

[Goth_Judoka]

Originally Posted by Johner

Been doing this shit for about two years, and I've mashed together a little something from everyone.

Inner Game; Badboy, Hypnotica and TylerDurden are all great for Inner Game.

Appearance; I use a mix of Mystery and Cajun for looks, specifically suited for me. Cajun has great body language, and you can read about it on his blog Cajun's Spice .

Approach Methods; TylerDurden use a lot of physical methods, poking the girls, shoving them, being caveman. Cajun on the other hand has the aura that attracts females, so he usually use this enigmatic smile and approach right away. I use a bit of both, depending on the chicks.

Conversations; Since I'm European, I tend to have more success with Badboy's way. Basically it's a direct approach, and from a lot of exercises you've learned to talk about everything.



In my opinion, the most important thing, and the foundation of it all is great Inner Game.
Mystery says that with success comes great Inner Game. I agree there, but the road to success is way harder if you do not develop a good Inner Game base first.

Check out Cajun in this episode of Keys to the VIP

Keys to the VIP Faxe vs Cajun

Lol, I look like this Cajun dude, except with a buzzcut, clean shaven and I have both eyes.

[StevieSparkZ]

haha Keys to the VIP is awesome, I watch it at work when I can. Cajun vs Faxe is an awesome episode real good extreme displays of crash n burn and success in those. Also look for the "Karaoke Kid", that guys got mad game too.

Also wanted to know, any of you guys ever gotten to talk to women about their thoughts on it?