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Old 07-30-2008, 01:27 PM   #11 (permalink)

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i have a different Q. talking about it in another thread, someone mentioned that a 3rd villain was referenced/set up in some way. i guess he didnt want to spoil anything so he just left it at that. anyone know what he was talking about?
I heard rumors that it was the Riddler. I don't remember anyone mentioning Edward Nigma though...
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:37 PM   #12 (permalink)

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Old 07-30-2008, 01:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i have a different Q. talking about it in another thread, someone mentioned that a 3rd villain was referenced/set up in some way. i guess he didnt want to spoil anything so he just left it at that. anyone know what he was talking about?
when Fox and BAtman discuss changes to his suit Fox says soemthign about "It will resist cats" perhaps a hint ot a Catwoman
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Old 07-30-2008, 02:55 PM   #14 (permalink)

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The story changes because, thematically, the origin story isn't important. It changes as a way of demonstrating the Joker's world view without stating it outright. From the Killing Joke graphic novel:

"All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day. You had a bad day once. Am I right? You had a bad day and everything changed"

The details of the bad day are, to the Joker, trivially unimportant: all that matters is the fact that it just takes one to wipe away all our cherished notions of civilization, of sanity, and of order.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:07 PM   #15 (permalink)

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I also noticed the change in the story, but I think it's a bit like those people you meet who tell you tall stories. Every time they change it because they cannot remember what they told the last time.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
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that's how he was in the comics, no real origin, completely psychotic. he's like nature's reaction to Batman. he just IS.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:52 PM   #18 (permalink)

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I heard rumors that it was the Riddler. I don't remember anyone mentioning Edward Nigma though...
Lucious Fox mentioned him in the movie as someone new they hired
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:56 PM   #19 (permalink)

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I also noticed the change in the story, but I think it's a bit like those people you meet who tell you tall stories. Every time they change it because they cannot remember what they told the last time.
Not quite. The Joker doesn't have a origin and is just insane and that is why the story is always different. I thought this was clear and pretty straight forward especially after he was in jail and they couldn't find any finger prints or any history of him
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From what I read else where. As the Joker character progressed, different comics would indicate different origins. The Joker would reference this later stating that he wasnt quite sure himself. Hes just truly insane.
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