[Zankou]

Originally Posted by Foolkiller

You can treat a girl well, just don't go out of your way for her. Don't trick yourself and be a doormat, picking up her tab for everything though, treat them as well as they deserve to be treated. The difference between a man and a spazz is the man puts himself first, the spazz puts the woman first. They won't respect you if you don't respect yourself and women don't want someone hanging over their shoulder most of the time, they want someone they can talk to their friends about and get some reassurance and affection from. Only if you've been with a girl for at least a year and are hitting it regularly should you start getting serious and putting them on any kind of pedestal, short term infatuation is nothing and a lot of women can get a lot of things from a lot of men by treating them all the same.

+1.

Put a girl on a pedestal after she earns her place there in the course of a long-term relationship.

Otherwise, hell's no. Putting her on a pedestal before you even start going out is the mark of a delusional chump, who undoubtedly will get to watch his "princess" get banged by, and thrown to the curb by, some random mailroom guy who doesn't even like her.

[Sinatra]

Honestly, you probably didn't have much respect for them in the first place.... which will most likely explain the overcompensating for that by placing them on a pedestal.

As always with these things, find the balance between the two extremes.

[gza]

respect is earned not given off the bat because you think thats the way to her pussy

[Soma]

Originally Posted by Skyline21

First off this is a general thread, not a help out in my girl situation thread. Im just lookin for opinions.

Ok so as we all know, its very very advisable to not put the girl you like on a pedestal and think of her as any better than you. I find that this attitude in general elicits a lot more respect from them and u generally dont get them trying to take u for a ride so to speak. However one problem arises for me lately is that by not putting them on a pedestal I end up having little or no respect for them and I find it very hard to really get into them. However I recently tried to ease off on it with a girl Id been seeing and almost turned into the spazz I used to be.

So my question to all u Mayberry lads that have some balls and dont put em on a pedestal, how do u maintain interest in these girls without becomming a joke of a man!?!

Do you respect your male friends? Do you respect your family members? I bet you answered yes to both questions. Now then, do you spazz the fuck out trying to please your friends or family? No? Good. I'm sure you do what you can for them, respect them, and expect the same in return. If you did not receive that same level of respect from your friends what would you do? You'd call them out on it. If it continued you'd stop being friends. Does that mean you care about your friends or family any less? No it doesn't.

That's how you need to look at the situation with girls. Respect them as people and no more than that until they earn it, just like any other male friend you've made.

Guys get so twisted over this. Really, you should treat girls very similar to how you treat your guys friends. Make fun of them, don't take shit (and give shit unnecessarily), do your own thing and if you have time and want them to be there with you invite them. Treat them like a normal person, which they are. Girls are so used to being treated like goddesses that when a guy treats them normal it's a breath of fresh air and they can't get enough. That's the opposite of what society tells us so it's hard to fathom for most guys.

[Three Gun Fish]

I thought "putting women on a pedestal" meant inflating a woman's perceived worth to the point you feel like she is out of your league.

So I'm not sure what the problem is. Sounds like you're plain not interested in some broads, and you want to figure out some kind of game to play in your head to retain interest. It's that how you play? Because Vin Diesel don't play that game.

[fistVSface]

You just need to open your eyes and be realistic. Treat her the way she deserves to be treated. If she isn't putting you up there then why should you do it for her? Part of this is realizing that there are plenty of chicks out there and losing one in the grand scheme of things really isn't anything.

[Throatpoker]

It's too hard, 60 bucks on the red light will do it for you.

[OmegaRED.]

Pretend she's a guy that you respect, or see the good and the bad and remember she's a fucked up person just like everyone else.

Whenever I start to put a chick on a pedestal I just picture her lying around in her underwear with no makeup on eating icecream and watching some late romantic comedy and that brings me down to reality.

[gza]

Originally Posted by OmegaRED.

I just picture her lying around in her underwear with no makeup on eating icecream and watching some late romantic comedy and that brings me down to reality.

what?

[Mrs Biohazard]

I know you said guys, but to be fair I think you need a female perspective. When my husband and I first started dating, he went out of his way to do nice, sweet little things to let me know he cared, but was enough of a pain in my ass and teased me enough to keep me on my toes. We are still the same way.