[Rhythmic]

Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK

Well, this type of weak willed men make up almost all men in the world !

Why do you think women sell cars and beers ?

I am not complaining you know ...

True, But that is just a recent** issue with men and mostly only in western or currently westernizing countries/nations.

There has been an attack on masculinity for decades trying to push feminization on men in the west.
Starting to change however, One man at a time.

I don't know how it is going to happen. But there is going to be another cultural change when men start taking back their masculinity.
I want to see how it clashes with radical feminism.




**=[well, recent as in 5-6 decades compared to history]

[Jay Pan ROKK]

A friend told me a joke, we take 9 moth trying to get out of the pussy and the rest of our lives trying to get in ...

It may happened only if the last decades though i dont think so ...

[Foolkiller]

Originally Posted by Rhythmic

Everything you are saying in your post is explained and summed up nicely in the Hookup culture series of essays.

I really suggest you give them a read as it will REALLY put everything in perspective.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/d18ztv



I went though something very similar to what you just typed in your first post. Except I am still in my 20s. Gender relationships as a whole are on the decline for multiple reasons. Give the Hookup culture essays a read. Trust me.

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While I am at it. I might as well stick this link here too.
http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/

I'm only 22 myself. I mean, it's a strange situation. I love women but I can't stand the bullshit I must go through every time to try have something resembling a positive relationship with one. The results aren't worth the effort needed for me at this point. In theory I could get laid every weekend but I don't want to get an STD from some bar skank and prefer to have sex in a relationship rather than just hit it and quit it. I think I'm in a bind where my mentality is not shared by many.

I'll check these links out though. I can always do with more reading material.

[explosives]

Originally Posted by Superbeast

I'm find that as time goes by, the nicer I am, the more my kindness is taken for weakness, the sooner things sour for me with the fairer sex. When I was younger I treated women with little respect and regard and had a greater amount of success and turnaround in terms of bedroom activity. At some point I started feeling guilt and began treating women as I'd like to be treated. I haven't had a truly successful relationship since.

It's been said the teenage years are an awaking period, 20s are an experimenting period, thirties are a realisation period and 40s are a maturation/brooding perioid. I feel almost like I had so much fun in my teens and have became so cynical as a result of my experiences what I should be doing I am not interested in carrying out because I know the regular routine of relationships at this point. It's kind of disappointing. Nothing and no one surprises me anymore. Every other bitch is a cut and past facsimile of woman from my past I've already dealt with and learnt from. I am rarely surprised and almost expect disappointment due to the predictability of women my age in England. I could probably score more if I didn't have as much self esteem and self respect, but I enjoy a challenge... however none are present anymore.

Am I too cynical and unmotivated or appropriately jaded but missing the boat?

Discuss.

Boy are you wrong, you say you have too much self esteem and self respect? Sounds like you got low self esteem because your unmotivated cynical and sort of like the person who is depressed by the world and finds things in life not worth persuing.

[explosives]

Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK

Our happiness is focused on women, in a sense women control men ...

I serve them with most respect, i dont mind take advantage sometimes ...

both control each other, they live in their world we live in ours, we control some things they control others.

[Bas Rutten Gear]

It's cause you have/had already that belief system in your head. Change your concepts of women and yourself and you will attract that into your life.

[Fiction]

Originally Posted by Superbeast

I'm only 22 myself. I mean, it's a strange situation. I love women but I can't stand the bullshit I must go through every time to try have something resembling a positive relationship with one. The results aren't worth the effort needed for me at this point. In theory I could get laid every weekend but I don't want to get an STD from some bar skank and prefer to have sex in a relationship rather than just hit it and quit it. I think I'm in a bind where my mentality is not shared by many.

I'll check these links out though. I can always do with more reading material.

I'm not quite sure what the predicament is here. Is it that you are interested in a serious relationship but can't find a girl because you don't want to be a dick? If you are only 22 I wouldn't be too worried about being involved in something serious. I'm not saying you should hit it and quit it but there are plenty of other options. I am 27 and am currently sleeping with a hardbody 20 year old. It is nothing serious. I hardly take her out much and we have a very light hearted relationship that will never get serious because that's not what I am interested in right now. If you have really nailed all those girls you said you have then I don't think you should have a problem finding what you want. You don't need to be a complete asshole just know when to yank the chain.

[Foolkiller]

Originally Posted by explosives

Boy are you wrong, you say you have too much self esteem and self respect? Sounds like you got low self esteem because your unmotivated cynical and sort of like the person who is depressed by the world and finds things in life not worth persuing.

Well I pursue what I enjoy doing and what I will be able to reap rewards from without negative consequences. But with women that's not something I've found to be possible in the long run. Too much drama comes about.

When I was pissed off and bitter a few years back between like 17-20, I had a revolving door policy but I got tired of trying to keep track of names and manage my shit without getting caught. Was it fun? Yup. Did I feel it was really the right thing to do? No, but I was more concerned with bragging to my buds about how I managed to pack in three women in one Saturday and a fourth Sunday afternoon rather than giving a shit about anyone's feelings or any consequences.

However I've kind of burned myself to an extent. It's the whole ice cream analogy, you can have all kinds of flavours and varieties but eventually you get sick of ice cream completely for a while. I think that's what's happened with me and women. I think turning two girls dyke as a result of my assholesque behaviour may have factored in to a lack of drive to plough through bitches. Guilt can be a mindfucker. Just before anyone asks, no, they didn't dyke out with each other, unfortunately. Otherwise I'd have made sure to get a tape of that.

I'm not quite sure what the predicament is here. Is it that you are interested in a serious relationship but can't find a girl because you don't want to be a dick

Partially, yes. I know you have to treat them mean to keep them keen at times but I'd rather not be an arsehole these days at all. I'd rather just do my thing, have fun and try not to hurt or piss off anybody unless it's necessary. I know a dude 6 years my senior in a similar spot as me so I'm not alone on this. I mean, don't get me wrong, I go out with a chick now and then, went out with one last Wednesday in fact, but I just find so many to be cookie cutter clones who ain't worth the effort or all the interesting ones have problems I don't want to have to help them deal with or hear about. It's like every girl with a degree these days has more self induced bullshit and drama than a WB show.

[jahred]

there are beautiful, amazing women out there. being a cynic by definition involves feeling independent. the number of people you consider to be peers is probably very low, and i think to have a girlfriend by necessity implies that you consider her a peer. it's just tough to find a wonderful girl who you consider to be 'on your level' when you've got a cynical mindset, because they're so fucking rare.

being a prick will get you laid, not a nice girlfriend. the problem is with the rest of the world, not you.

[HUNTERMANIA!!!]

I agree completely with you Superbeast. I think the whole "game" of being an asshole is fucking stupid, and while I realize that I should do it to get laid all the time, I don't want too.

I don't know why I don't want too, but I can't make myself do it. It's fucking frustrating because women are idiots when it comes to picking out what's good for them and what isn't (maybe they just can't help it).