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03-14-2008, 10:50 AM
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#651 (permalink)
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Orange Belt
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Originally Posted by Tiger
ummm guys jin is just proof that they all came back in different timelines
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would you care to elaborate? i dont really understand what you're saying.
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03-14-2008, 11:17 AM
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#652 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mariospoiry
would you care to elaborate? i dont really understand what you're saying.
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He is saying that Jin's story were flashforwards as well last night. If you read through the entire thread you will see that many people have theorized that the islaand is kind of outside the spacetime continuum and that if you do not leave the island the right way, you end up in an alternate reality future.
So I think Tiger thinks Jin gets off the island but is in a reality where Sun did not or she died, and he is remarried.
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03-14-2008, 11:26 AM
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#653 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 2short
As far as who will die next week...I want Faraday to die. I still have an irrational loathing for him from Saving Private Ryan.
The obvious candidates for the "shocking" death next week would be:
Claire - we know she is not off the island with Aaron, and is presumed to be dead
Jin - we saw his grave last night, so are supposed to presume he is dead as well
Less obvious and less shocking would be one of the people from the boat.
I could not imagine them killing Locke or Sawyer or Juliette who are the main characters we do not kow about in the future.
I could see them killing Michael or Desmond, which would be shocking.
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If you want to loathe Faraday even more, watch Rescue Dawn. For some reason, it seems to be that if it's a military-based movie, he's cowardly. Gotta say, though, he pulls the role off quite well.
And Locke's gonna be dead by the end of Lost. I still say that's him in the casket, if not Michael.
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Originally Posted by 2short
He is saying that Jin's story were flashforwards as well last night. If you read through the entire thread you will see that many people have theorized that the islaand is kind of outside the spacetime continuum and that if you do not leave the island the right way, you end up in an alternate reality future.
So I think Tiger thinks Jin gets off the island but is in a reality where Sun did not or she died, and he is remarried.
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Not knocking you, but I don't see how this would really make sense. Why would Jin come back on a different timeline, while Sun, Hurley, Jack, Kate and Aaron are all seemingly normal? Something could go wrong, but you seem to be stretching. Jin's dead, for the same reason everyone else who got in trouble with the law did.
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03-14-2008, 11:34 AM
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#654 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tiger
ummm guys jin is just proof that they all came back in different timelines
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I think it was a flashback though. Notice how angry he was and that he was still working for Sun's dad. He has changed a lot. I guess it's possible that he reverted back to his old ways then he married someone else. But my money would be on they just were playing a flashback to screw with us.
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03-14-2008, 11:55 AM
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#655 (permalink)
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Brown Belt
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Originally Posted by YellowHare
Not knocking you, but I don't see how this would really make sense. Why would Jin come back on a different timeline, while Sun, Hurley, Jack, Kate and Aaron are all seemingly normal? Something could go wrong, but you seem to be stretching. Jin's dead, for the same reason everyone else who got in trouble with the law did.
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I was explaining what I believe Tiger's position to be, nit that I subscribe to this theory. I think this is too complicated a solution.
The way it would work is if the Oceanic 6 left the island on one helicopter flight and Jin and others left on a different flight on a slightly different course. Under that scenario they would come out on different timelines. Presumably, in Jin's future, Sun is not there or dies.
I could not imagine a scenario where Jin still works for her dad in a future where they have divorced.
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03-14-2008, 12:21 PM
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#656 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by YellowHare
Not knocking you, but I don't see how this would really make sense. Why would Jin come back on a different timeline, while Sun, Hurley, Jack, Kate and Aaron are all seemingly normal? Something could go wrong, but you seem to be stretching. Jin's dead, for the same reason everyone else who got in trouble with the law did.
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That flashback was in the year 2000. Now, if he's still alive there is some cover up as to what happened on the island and what is still going on there. At Kate's trial Jack said that 8 initially survived and then 2 more died leaving 6 survivors, which seems to be the story everyone is sticking to and which the viewer knows is a fabrication.
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03-14-2008, 12:29 PM
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#657 (permalink)
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Green Belt
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Originally Posted by 2short
I was explaining what I believe Tiger's position to be, nit that I subscribe to this theory. I think this is too complicated a solution.
The way it would work is if the Oceanic 6 left the island on one helicopter flight and Jin and others left on a different flight on a slightly different course. Under that scenario they would come out on different timelines. Presumably, in Jin's future, Sun is not there or dies.
I could not imagine a scenario where Jin still works for her dad in a future where they have divorced.
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How could such a scenario exist, is the question I'm asking about Tiger's theory. Sun went to Jin's gravesite. Why would she go to a "fake" tomb if she really knew he was alive (and divorced from her)? That would render that scene all emotionally pointless.
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03-14-2008, 01:19 PM
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#658 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
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Originally Posted by YellowHare
How could such a scenario exist, is the question I'm asking about Tiger's theory. Sun went to Jin's gravesite. Why would she go to a "fake" tomb if she really knew he was alive (and divorced from her)? That would render that scene all emotionally pointless.
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That's exactly what I thought. She wouldn't think he was dead unless she saw the body...So unless something happened where he came back to life or something it looks like he is dead.
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03-14-2008, 01:30 PM
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#659 (permalink)
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Orange Belt
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Originally Posted by 2short
He is saying that Jin's story were flashforwards as well last night. If you read through the entire thread you will see that many people have theorized that the islaand is kind of outside the spacetime continuum and that if you do not leave the island the right way, you end up in an alternate reality future.
So I think Tiger thinks Jin gets off the island but is in a reality where Sun did not or she died, and he is remarried.
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thanks alot
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03-14-2008, 01:30 PM
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#660 (permalink)
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Brown Belt
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I will let Tiger argue his own theory from here on out.
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