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Old 11-07-2006, 05:25 PM   #51 (permalink)

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No sooner had I quickly added in my last post than you reveal the all so obvious.
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No sooner had I quickly added in my last post than you reveal the all so obvious.
and if you click the link and view the bottom of the page, they give their sources.


they arent their own source, as with creationist sites.


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Old 11-07-2006, 05:35 PM   #53 (permalink)

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I laugh how you dismiss the talk origins link, . Care to comment on the sources they provide that got them the list of the places with the gelogical column?
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A.F. Trendall et al , editors, Geol. Surv. West. Australia Memoir 3, 1990, pp 382, 396;
N.E. Haimla et al, The Geology of North America, Vol. L, DNAG volumes, 1990, p. 517)
etc...
Care to comment the picture is "(Figure courtesy of Thomas Moore)"
Glenn Morton is a geophysicist ... here's his same paper at a non-talk origins URL.
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/geo.htm
I have provided you with a list of places where the geological column exists in its entireity, care to refute? apart from your usual "pfff talk origins"
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:35 PM   #54 (permalink)

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http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn/#conclusion



Now can we stay on topic with Kent Hovind being in jail?? This geology talk is ruining my schadenfreude.
Umm no:

The fact is that the geologic column is not found complete at any place on Earth, except in books and on web sites. While the geologic column consists of ten basic layers, all ten layers are found in very few places making up less than 1% of Earth's surface. The theory says it should be 100 miles thick, whereas, on average world wide, the sediment layers are only one mile thick. The entire geologic column was patched together from various locations.
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The major divisions of the strata that makes-up the geological column with brief explanations of each name.
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The major divisions of the strata that makes-up the geological column with brief explanations of each name.

There are places claimed to have the entire geological column, but what is meant is that they have found layers that they can assign to all ten geologic ages. The following list is as found at "The Entire Geologic Column in North Dakota".

1. The Ghadames Basin in Libya.
2. The Beni Mellal Basin in Morocco.
3. The Tunisian Basin in Tunisia.
4. The Oman Interior Basin in Oman.
5. The Western Desert Basin in Egypt.
6. The Adana Basin in Turkey.
7. The Iskenderun Basin in Turkey.
8. The Moesian Platform in Bulgaria.
9. The Carpathian Basin in Poland.
10. The Baltic Basin in the USSR.
11. The Yeniseiy-Khatanga Basin in the USSR.
12. The Farah Basin in Afghanistan.
13. The Helmand Basin in Afghanistan.
14. The Yazd-Kerman-Tabas Basin in Iran.
15. The Manhai-Subei Basin in China.
16. The Jiuxi Basin China.
17. The Tung t'in - Yuan Shui Basin China.
18. The Tarim Basin China.
19. The Szechwan Basin China.
20. The Yukon-Porcupine Province Alaska.
21. The Williston Basin in North Dakota.
22. The Tampico Embayment Mexico.
23. The Bogata Basin Colombia.
24. The Bonaparte Basin, Australia.
25. The Beaufort Sea Basin/McKenzie River Delta

Of the 25 claimed locations, stratigraphic information was available on only six of them. There is little if any mention of fossils other than micro fossils such a pollen. Often the rocks seem to have been assigned their geologic age by comparing them with rocks from other locations. Most of these are hundreds of miles away and there is no direct observation of a physical connection. In some cases the "ages" are assigned to a rock layer based on the strata above or below it. These six do provided some interesting information, however.

I don't need to provide the source as I am sure you will find it in seconds by copying and pasting.
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yeah ... so i just googled some of your post and found your source....


http://creationwiki.org/Geological_column



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yeah ... so i just googled some of your post and found your source....


http://creationwiki.org/Geological_column



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Just as lolable as that talkorigins rubbish. You have your evolution supporting sources, I have my creation supporting sources. But the difference is, my source is correct.
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You don't like citing your links do you??
http://creationwiki.org/Geological_column
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The CreationWiki is a free encyclopedia of creation science being assembled by the international creationist community. We encourage all creationists to get involved with the development of this valuable resource.
Once again, creationists dispute modern geology. Do they submit their research and finding to peer reviewed journals? No they make a webpage.
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Just as lolable as that talkorigins rubbish. You have your evolution supporting sources, I have my creation supporting sources. But the difference is, my source is correct.
Talk origins is backed by peer reviewed science.
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I really don't see why you demand it to be 'peer reviewed'. It won't change the facts of the matter.
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Yeah, I know. Reviewed by 'experts' in the field of evolution and related 'sciences'.
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