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Old 04-09-2006, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Illuminati..?

Hey guys.. lots of cool ideas here about aliens and such.

I thought as long as we're all on a fantasy/conspiracy imagination kick I want to know if anybody has read any good books or know any good websites or wishes to share any knowledge/ideas about the Illumnati.

I have just very recently heard about the concept and would like to find out more about what the whole CT is about..

Thanks!
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Angels and Demons was about the Illuminati, good book
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-09-2006, 07:05 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Annuit Coeptis
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?? are these book titles?
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Old 04-09-2006, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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nuff said.

I got a dvd by them on 911 it kicks ass.

also check
www.csicop.org/si
has good online articles.

for realistic thought provoking, learning material check those 2 for entertainment
seek else where.

this book I got for example talks about aliens & secret societies and what not,
very interesting, but for entertainment only even though the guy who wrote is a
serious... seriously wacked.
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Old 04-09-2006, 07:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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No, I think those are just expressions that are typically attributed to illuminati thought.

Annuit Coeptis I believe is translated to something like "He favors our undertakings"

Novus Ordoi Seclorum is more easily translated: New World Order

It's important to understand that there actually was an Illuminated Order started by Adam Weishaupt in Bavaria, altho i have heard that Adam Weishaupt may not have actually existed. It's hard to say as there is a lot of mystery and myth surrounding the Illuminati. Supposedly the Illuminati took a lot of its mythos and principles from The Masons, and high-ranking masons were (and still are) said to to be the ones who make up the Illuminati, both back then and today. Several of the American founding fathers were said to have been high-ranking Masons, the kind who would have been illuminati, depending on whether you believe in it in the first place. The Masons, in the meantime, like to trace their ancestry back to the civilization of the Egyptians (if not farther), so there is a very long (probably mostly imagined) lineage from the Illuminati all the way back to Atlantean and even alien civilizations.

Besides the sketchy historical details about the Illuminati, there is a wealth of speculation and outright fiction. It's really become a modern ****phor for everything that is mysterious, unknown, god-like, privileged, undemocratic, etc. etc. Everything from Pynchon's Trystero (Crying of Lot 49), the X-Files' shadow government. Eco's TRES/Templars, the monoliths from Neon Genesis, the party scene in Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut... all of these are basically facets of the same idea that lurks behind all of them, that being The illuminati.

Robert Anton Wilson is considered an authority on the subject, altho he probably deals with more of the speculation/fantasy/****phor aspects of the Illuminati than on its actual historical, factual significance. He wrote the Illuminatus! trilogy, which is a real psychedelic freak out.
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Is there any 'fact' about how the images were selected that are on the US one doller bill? It seems such a cornerstone for Illuminati/Mason CT's.. but I can't believe that there isn't a historical account somwhere of when/how/why that bill was designed.. I mean how old is that bill design, anyways?
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if you want to know the basics...search up pindar the space lizard

all you need to know about it
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They're the subject of an amusing card game as well.
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