[Happy Boy]

Originally Posted by YeahBee

was your family religious? your home country is certainly more religious then mine...

those feelings of disrespect for themand yourself must stem from something

I jsut assumed that my one nigth stands liked sex = because as I have had a non religious upbringing it isn't viewed as something bad or wrong to do before marriage

My family isnt really religious, they go now and then from tradition but I dont think they believe in anything and didnt force anything on me. Trust, Ireland is nominally Christian only, there are very very few actual Christians, probably not many more than Sweden, people go to Church once or twice a year out of duty but most dont believe in God at all. Whenever there are statistics done though they always come out high as people say they are Christians as that is what their tradition is, its very misleading.

I believe in a certain innate morality, sex is a very sacred and deeply emotional thing, to throw it around and treat it like just a fun activity cheapens it. I couldn't ever have a relationship with someone who went home with someone the night they met, I'd never be able to get myself to respect them and, something about that kind of activity has always struck me as deeply horrible. Nothing in my upbringing made me think that way, its just how Ive always felt.

I know plenty of non-religious people too who have no respect for promiscuity so its by no means just a religious thing.

[chardog]

Originally Posted by YeahBee

Again if you are brought up in a non religious way sex isn't something bad or wrong, it is jsut a pleasurable experience,

I would like to think that we have exceled over the caveman mentalitty

this has nothing to do with religion. Easy girls are just that.... their easy. Easy stuff is cheap, there's no value. If a girl has had a dozen partners by the age of 18, she can be perceived as easy. It would take little effort to get her in bed. There is no challenge in an easy task. No challenge, no respect.

[YeahBee]

again you are a chauvinist chardog

waht if she was the aggressor? the one hitting on hunks because she likes sex? took command and got staisfied?

[AdamG]

Originally Posted by Happy Boy

...sex is a very sacred and deeply emotional thing, to throw it around and treat it like just a fun activity cheapens it...

Making love is a sacred and deeply emotional thing. Sex is just about the funnest thing one can do.

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by Happy Boy

Well now it sounds as though you've read people's thoughts on what you did re abortion and are trying to distance yourself from your responsibility in the decision.



So now she made the decision and you had nothing to do with it? Seriously?

As for the rest, again, once you are happy playing golf and watching MMA then it doesn't matter what you've done to a young life, that's what the modern moral consensus dictates and you've obviously signed onto that, good man.

my preference was for her to have the abortion

im just making the point that men have no control over that, as its the womans decision since it is her body

the modern moral consenses? im thankin god for that

get with the times

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by Happy Boy

I'll say it again, Bob is a Christian, Christians are meant to wait for marriage, this thread is about Bob, hence I told Bob the Christian position. Nothing more, no guilt or judgment or anything else.

I've had this with others, but I'll say it here just for the record. Waiting for marriage, in my view and the view of many other Christians, hugely increases the stability of a relationship. The emotional groundwork is in place before the physicalities begin, nothing is based on superficialness, and this is a great strength builder for a couple. I think over the course of a marriage two folks can work out how to have sex after they waited!!

For me, its made me respect my woman a LOT more. Before I was a Christian I used to go home with girls, and it made me lose all respect for them, I looked on them as slags behind all the flattery I'd say to get them to bed. This hasn't happened with my fiancee, I respect her as a person so much more because of the way we have done it.

what a double standard, the girls YOU went and slept with before you were a christian were slags? but your wife who is sleeping with the same guys those slags slept with is respected?

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by freestyle raw

what a double standard, the girls YOU went and slept with before you were a christian were slags? but your wife who is sleeping with the same guys those slags slept with is respected?

the same guy*

[Happy Boy]

Originally Posted by freestyle raw

my preference was for her to have the abortion

im just making the point that men have no control over that, as its the womans decision since it is her body

the modern moral consenses? im thankin god for that

get with the times

I'm not into moral relativism, getting with the times as its known is not an advisable thing in my opinion.

[Happy Boy]

Originally Posted by freestyle raw

what a double standard, the girls YOU went and slept with before you were a christian were slags? but your wife who is sleeping with the same guys those slags slept with is respected?

I'm not saying they were slags, I looked at them as such at the time. My fiancee knows my past and knows how I left that all behind me. I have been abstinent since the day I accepted Jesus, that was the day I knew the right way and have followed it since. There is no double standard, I am 100% faithful to my fiancee and have been with nobody since I was saved, she is my single partner. My respect for her comes from the fact she is willing to do things the right way to and not be brought along with the tide of the modern moral consensus.

[I Am Korean]

Happy Boy I only see you post when the thread pertains to morality and you can plug in your beliefs.

Not saying you're wrong or disagreeing with you. I just wanted to point that out.