[Oblivian]

My advice to you is do what you want. Another big portion of advice is for you to grow up. I can't sit here and read this entire soap opera/abortion debate of a thread, but I have seen your past threads. Is this the same girl you were bitching about in the other threads? Is this the same girl that is your manager at the pizza joint you call your workplace? Is this the same girl that doesn't pay enough attention to you at parties? Is this the same girl you were debating on breaking up with? Grow up and quit complaining about your future wife on a public forum. Imagine how stupid you will feel if you marry this girl and go back and read your dumbass whiny posts. Now imagine how stupid she'd feel if she read them. Imagine her reading a post about if you should marry her or not.
Grow up, quit spending your free time posting on forums about such personal issues(because I know you aren't posting at work while your driving the pizza delivery car), talk to your girl about the issues you had instead of strangers on a forum, find a good job (even if it pays less, something that is more respectable *NOTE: I have no issue with anyone working anywhere when they are single without a kid, but when you have a kid on the way, things change*), and start saving every penny you have.

[w0cyru01]

Originally Posted by Oblivian

My advice to you is do what you want. Another big portion of advice is for you to grow up. I can't sit here and read this entire soap opera/abortion debate of a thread, but I have seen your past threads. Is this the same girl you were bitching about in the other threads? Is this the same girl that is your manager at the pizza joint you call your workplace? Is this the same girl that doesn't pay enough attention to you at parties? Is this the same girl you were debating on breaking up with? Grow up and quit complaining about your future wife on a public forum. Imagine how stupid you will feel if you marry this girl and go back and read your dumbass whiny posts. Now imagine how stupid she'd feel if she read them. Imagine her reading a post about if you should marry her or not.
Grow up, quit spending your free time posting on forums about such personal issues(because I know you aren't posting at work while your driving the pizza delivery car), talk to your girl about the issues you had instead of strangers on a forum, find a good job (even if it pays less, something that is more respectable *NOTE: I have no issue with anyone working anywhere when they are single without a kid, but when you have a kid on the way, things change*), and start saving every penny you have.

He's going to start working UPS part-time making $8/hr throwing boxes with all of the college students.

[DrSatanDracula]

Bobbylight:

You grew up in a broken home?? According to freestyle raw it would have been better if your parents aborted you. You know, so you wouldn't ruin their lives.........

Anyone that is mentioning abortion I cannot respect at all. This is my child, and I'm not a fucking child. I'm not 14 and living in poverty. My girlfriend and I are perfectly capable of raising a child, and we will do it well. One of my best friends told me that he was born in a very similar fashion when his parents were about my age. Man, too bad they didn't do the "smart" thing and abort him. He is perhaps one of the nicest and genuine people I know, but according to you guys he should have been aborted.

You don't abort a baby because it messes things up in your life. You man up, take responsibility for your actions, and you live your life. It might be hard, it might seem like too much, but when your child says "I love you dad" it will all be fucking worth it.

Anyone saying my girl wasn't taking the pill, and that I should get a paternity test almost definitely has a serious trust issue with women. I know my girl, I spend ALL my time together, we love each other dearly, she is about to give me her car, only her name is on the lease of the apartment, if I were to leave her because I found out she cheated all that would be gone. The car would be mine and there would be nothing she could do about it, and she would have to pay her rent all by herself. If somehow she was cheating, do you really think that she would leave me to completely screw her over if I found out and left??

Serious problems with trust. And serious problems with morals if you recommend an abortion when I have said that my girl and I can provide for the baby in a loving way. What the fuck is wrong with you people. Seriously.

ONce again: Quoted for fucking truth.

I also agree that if you have no reason to suspect whatsoever that your woman is cheating on you, that the paternity test is not needed. Some people were posting as if this girl was fucked up or something and you had this weird relationship. Apparently that isn't the case at all.

Good for you, man. Congratulations. And good for you taking the responsible thing. You really lived up to things here. And I hope you live very well together as man and wife once that goes down.

But yeah, seriously. These guys are nuts with this abortion crap. Disgusting.

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by DrSatanDracula

Bobbylight:



ONce again: Quoted for fucking truth.

I also agree that if you have no reason to suspect whatsoever that your woman is cheating on you, that the paternity test is not needed. Some people were posting as if this girl was fucked up or something and you had this weird relationship. Apparently that isn't the case at all.

Good for you, man. Congratulations. And good for you taking the responsible thing. You really lived up to things here. And I hope you live very well together as man and wife once that goes down.

But yeah, seriously. These guys are nuts with this abortion crap. Disgusting.

i repsect both of you guys for being there as a lot of guys just disappear and dont even send a check.......


as far as abortion goes, last time a i checked its legal and up to the woman to decide, so she made a decision and i have to live with. do i feel like my life and hers are better off for it?

YES

I am single and running my own business having the time of my life watching MMA playing golf..........

she is married to the man of her dreams with a baby on the way.


does this make me a bad person?

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by DrSatanDracula

Bobbylight:



ONce again: Quoted for fucking truth.

I also agree that if you have no reason to suspect whatsoever that your woman is cheating on you, that the paternity test is not needed. Some people were posting as if this girl was fucked up or something and you had this weird relationship. Apparently that isn't the case at all.

Good for you, man. Congratulations. And good for you taking the responsible thing. You really lived up to things here. And I hope you live very well together as man and wife once that goes down.

But yeah, seriously. These guys are nuts with this abortion crap. Disgusting.

ps watch maury if you think that if you have no reason to think your woman is cheating......... on a serious note women cheat and regardless if you have spent 364 days out of a 365 day relationship, get the test

[Jubacat]

Originally Posted by freestyle raw

i repsect both of you guys for being there as a lot of guys just disappear and dont even send a check.......


as far as abortion goes, last time a i checked its legal and up to the woman to decide, so she made a decision and i have to live with. do i feel like my life and hers are better off for it?

YES

I am single and running my own business having the time of my life watching MMA playing golf..........

she is married to the man of her dreams with a baby on the way.

does this make me a bad person?

Yes.

Happy Boy is right on with his answers. People who follow your route of action want the benefits of growing up (sex) but none of the consequences their actions can create (kids).

That is what this whole issue revolves around. People want to do whatever they want but they do not want to suffer any consequences from their own choices.

And by the way, just because abortion is legal does not make it right.

[Jubacat]

Originally Posted by freestyle raw

ps watch maury if you think that if you have no reason to think your woman is cheating......... on a serious note women cheat and regardless if you have spent 364 days out of a 365 day relationship, get the test

I am glad I have never been in a relationship where I needed to question my partner's honesty.

[Cooking With Dom Deluise]

I would advise against it and tell you to be with whoever makes you happy. Look at it this way: 2 unhappy parents are not going to produce a very beneficial environment for the kids who grow up in it.

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by Jubacat

I am glad I have never been in a relationship where I needed to question my partner's honesty.

ignorance is bliss..... how many relationships you been in?

law and ethics are separate issues, and even if i was of the some opinion as everyone responding to me i cannot make a woman have a kid

i also do not consider it a consequense as much as a result

[freestyle raw]

Originally Posted by Jubacat

I am glad I have never been in a relationship where I needed to question my partner's honesty.

lol read my original post.......... fort worth