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07-04-2006, 04:47 PM
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Dear lord, are you delayed? Listen, the query of this thread can be aptly stated as to who stated EVERY motivation in life is based upon sex. You replied that the person who said this was Freud but provided no evidence for this but psychosexual stages. This does not imply that Freud stated EVERY motivation or anything like the sort. In fact, with the advent of freudian thanatos, it would simply be a contradiction in ideas. The only way it would not be contradicting is unless, the idea of thanatos came before his alleged statement but was dismissed OR the notion of thanatos came after this alleged statement, that is, he changed his mind. Yet, you have provided no evidence that Freud included every motivation as sexual....NONE!
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I do not have to provide such evidence ... but in fact i started, look post #10, the one just before sex stages :
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His whole work seems to propose it ...
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libido
Sigmund Freud introduced the term and pointed out that libido is the instinctual energy or force that can come into conflict with the conventions of civilized behavior. It is the need to conform to society and control the libido, contained in what Freud defined as the Id, that leads to tension and disturbance in both society and the individual. |
You do have problems with me, take it easy bRat, no need to take all our conversation into a battle ...
Both Eros and Thanatos are Freud concepts, it do not mean he was right or wrong or ALL our acts must be drived by just one or both or whatever ... we are just in a nice conversation ! __________________
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07-04-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Colossus
The reason Freud is not well liked (at least by the scientific community) is because his theories are not scientific.
And he is commonly refered to as the "Father of Psychology" by the popular media, which is not only far from the truth, but detritmental and misleading the average person about psychology.
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OK, i understand, however in his favor we must admit that he was a pionner, even science was not well established as today ... __________________
Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
A dead brain is not a mind but still is a brain.
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07-04-2006, 05:40 PM
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as long as you do not feel freud claimed every motivation is rooted within sexuality, i am fine.
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07-04-2006, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bRaT
as long as you do not feel freud claimed every motivation is rooted within sexuality, i am fine.
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Well, he said that, at least during a certain time, besides, this idea came from him, any root we take in this matter will lead to Freud ... __________________
Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
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07-04-2006, 06:00 PM
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Strongly disagree.
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07-04-2006, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK
Well, he said that, at least during a certain time, besides, this idea came from him, any root we take in this matter will lead to Freud ...
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fine. provide me a quote from freud. |
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07-04-2006, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bRaT
fine. provide me a quote from freud.
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1905: Freud Invents Sexuality
http://www.gayhistory.com/rev2/factfiles/ff1905.htm
"In his 1905 Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality Sigmund Freud invented the idea of sexuality is a process independent of an individual's sex. "
You will have to read his book to find a quote from God himself ... __________________
Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
A dead brain is not a mind but still is a brain.
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07-04-2006, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Pan ROKK
1905: Freud Invents Sexuality
http://www.gayhistory.com/rev2/factfiles/ff1905.htm
"In his 1905 Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality Sigmund Freud invented the idea of sexuality is a process independent of an individual's sex. "
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Curiously in 1905 another jew shocked the world with 3 works, Einstein ! __________________
Dont just do something, sit there !
Only now is alive and nothing else.
How and why myth influence matter ?
Is reality digital or continuous ?
A dead brain is not a mind but still is a brain.
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07-04-2006, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by explosives
who's philosophy is this and what are your thoughts on this?
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I, actually, thought about this one time when I was high. I was thinking that we only have one purpose in the world, I am only speaking from a male point of view. Our only purpose is to score, no matter what it is. Having sex is scoring. Winning a grappling match is scoring. Winning in any kind is scoring. Getting a good grade on a test is scoring. You get the idea. |
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